# What's the worst thing Antifa has ever done?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 5, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339 "2020-08-05T15:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/81 "2020-08-31T18:01:28Z")

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Killed a Patriot Prayer man in Portland.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/82 "2020-08-31T18:21:30Z")

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This is false. No suspect has been identified, so there is no evidence that the perp was antifa. Could have been a right wing agitator, or BLM, or anything.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/83 "2020-08-31T18:27:02Z")

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No it’s not false. There is an audio of the guy saying we have a Trumper here and shots were fired.

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**Author:** ![HammondsCollapse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HammondsCollapse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammondsCollapse)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/84 "2020-08-31T18:28:17Z")

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> **[Portland police investigating man who allegedly identifies as '100% Antifa'...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-police-fatal-shooting-political-rally)**
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> Portland Police are investigating an Oregon man – who was allegedly previously cited for carrying a loaded gun at a different protest – for his potential connection with a fatal shooting at a political rally over the weekend, according to a recent...

According to The Oregonian, Reinoehl has identified himself as anti-fascist and, in one post, from June 16, wrote, “I am 100 % ANTIFA all the way!”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/85 "2020-08-31T18:34:51Z")

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First of all- **“FOX NEWS”.** unreliable and biased.

Next:

_On Monday, a spokesperson with PPB would not confirm the Oregonian report and told Fox News that commenting on any information that hasn’t been publicly released could compromise the active homicide investigation._

_“I’m aware that there are media reports that contain named individuals, but those details are unconfirmed,” said the spokesperson, Sgt. Kevin Allen, in an email to Fox News. “All verified information is on our website under the news section.”_

From the OP: _What is the most heinous thing any self-described member of Antifa has ever been convicted of doing?_ This guy hasnt even been arrested.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/86 "2020-08-31T18:35:21Z")

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No one has been arrested, thus it is false.

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**Author:** ![HammondsCollapse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HammondsCollapse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammondsCollapse)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/87 "2020-08-31T18:36:21Z")

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People post unconfirmed reports here all the time that are later confirmed, it’s out there in the news so I’m posting it here, if you don’t agree, well, I’ve noted it in my diary.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/88 "2020-08-31T19:02:55Z")

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The greatest trick Antifa ever pulled was convincing the world they didn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/89 "2020-08-31T19:13:47Z")

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The OP was quite specific.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/90 "2020-08-31T19:13:55Z")

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They dont.

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**Author:** ![HammondsCollapse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecb155/32.png) [@HammondsCollapse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammondsCollapse)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/91 "2020-08-31T19:15:59Z")

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Yes and the worst thing OJ ever did was steal trophies.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/92 "2020-08-31T19:32:20Z")

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Well, he was at least publicly IDed, arrested , charged and brought to trial. Whoever the Portland guy is, none of those things have occured yet.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/93 "2020-08-31T19:37:42Z")

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I mean, it seems likely that the murderer was Antifa, but it’s not certain yet. It’s not out of the question that it’s a Boogaloo idiot, given their propensity for violence and 4chan-style misinformation campaigns and their desire to provoke a civil war; but the simplest explanation is an antifa activist. I say this as someone who considers himself part of the educational wing of antifa, and it is of course–of _course_–horrific that anyone would resort to violence like this.

It’s likely, but I’ll wait for more information.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/94 "2020-08-31T23:57:27Z")

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The fighting here appears to have been two-sided, with members of the right-wing “caravan” that drove into Portland firing paint and pellet guns at protesters. No word yet on the specific circumstances of the killing.

Note however that while Joe Biden has continued to condemn the violence in Portland, President Trump has called the people on his side “great patriots”.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/95 "2020-09-01T00:22:06Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Killed a Patriot Prayer man in Portland.

Do you know what Patriot Prayer is?

> **[Patriot Prayer again brings violence to Portland with 'flash march' downtown,...](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/10/15/patriot-prayer-again-brings-violence-portland-flash-march-downtown-rounding-out-weekend-far)**
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> Proud Boys again join Joey Gibson's crew of violent extremists to troll city streets in search of leftist opponents — and eventually they find some to beat bloody.

> **[What We Know About Patriot Prayer](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/08/31/what-we-know-about-patriot-prayer)**
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> On Sunday morning, the New York Times reported that a man wearing a hat branded with the insignia of Patriot Prayer was shot and killed in Portland.

This may have been a legitimate case of self defense.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/96 "2020-09-01T00:35:35Z")

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Yes I know what PP is. Doesn’t mean he needed to be murdered by anyone.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/97 "2020-09-01T00:41:10Z")

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Doesn’t mean that he was murdered, either. Folks firing paintballs look a lot like folks aiming guns.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/98 "2020-09-01T00:45:37Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Doesn’t mean he needed to be murdered by anyone.

> **[Man under investigation in fatal shooting after pro-Trump rally allegedly...](https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-after-pro-trump-rally-allegedly-took-loaded-gun-to-earlier-portland-protest.html)**
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> Michael Reinoehl was accused of carrying a loaded gun to an earlier Portland protest.

> The grainy video and other photos, together with witness statements from live streamer Justin Dunlap, suggest the victim may have used some type of mace or pepper spray and then collapsed after gunshots ring out.

If the perpetrator didn’t have a gun out when the victim allegedly sprayed, the victim committed assault.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/99 "2020-09-01T09:26:32Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Yes I know what PP is. Doesn’t mean he needed to be murdered by anyone.

And do you feel the same way about the Kenosha protesters?

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/100 "2020-09-01T11:17:14Z")

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I’m not going to gettin for tat on this, the OP was what is the worse thing Antifa has done. Murder .

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