# What's the worst thing Antifa has ever done? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 5, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339 "2020-08-05T15:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/101 "2020-09-01T16:11:09Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Yes I know what PP is. Doesn’t mean he needed to be murdered by anyone. > [@eenerms](#): > > Murder . And you know it was absolutely not self defense because…? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/102 "2020-09-01T16:48:32Z")
Again, we dont know who did that. No one has been arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/103 "2020-09-01T19:18:50Z")
> **[Undercover in Patriot Prayer: Insights From a Vancouver Democrat Who's Been...](https://www.portlandmercury.com/news/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside)** > > Editor’s Note: After publication of this story, a lawyer representing Andy Ngo contacted the Mercury, asking for a retraction and stating that Ngo denies certain claims made by a source quoted in this article. See the full contents of the lawyer’s... > Andy Ngo, a conservative writer who’s built a Twitter persona around filming fights between antifa and right-wing extremists (that, and trying to convince people that hate crime allegations[raised by LGBTQ+ Portlanders](https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/02/25/26018143/amid-anti-lgbtq-violence-many-queer-portlanders-dont-trust-the-police-for-protection) are simply “hoaxes”). > > Ngo tags along with Patriot Prayer during demonstrations, hoping to catch footage of an altercation. Ben says Ngo doesn’t film Patriot Prayer protesters discussing strategies or motives. He only turns his camera on when members of antifa enter the scene. > > “There’s an understanding,” he says, “that Patriot Prayer protects him and he protects them.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/104 "2020-09-02T12:58:27Z")
The worst thing Antifa has ever done is make people believe they exist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/105 "2020-09-02T13:17:20Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The worst thing Antifa has ever done is make people believe they exist. …as an organized entity. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/106 "2020-09-02T14:06:21Z")
Yeah, new information about the Patriot Prayer assholes is making me more hesitant. This is a group that roves the streets with weapons, including bear mace and clubs, looking to start fights. My threshold for when it’s okay to shoot someone in self-defense is pretty high, a lot higher than it is for a lot of folks on this board. But if a group of people wielding clubs are coming at you and they’re spraying mace, it looks a lot like they’re trying to disable you before they beat you. So I’ll wait to hear details. Was the shooter just pissed off at these assholes and shot one out of anger? Did he go out that night planning to murder a Trump supporter? Or did he have a genuine fear that he (or another protestor) was about to be beaten, possibly to death? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/107 "2020-09-02T19:31:19Z")
[Neenah man arrested at Green Bay protest has ties to Antifa](https://www.wbay.com/2020/08/31/neenah-man-arrested-at-green-bay-protest-has-ties-to-antifa/) > A Neenah man had a flamethrower, smoke grenades and fireworks during a demonstration in Green Bay Saturday night, according to police and prosecutors. > > … > > The criminal complaint says Banta “is known to be a violent Antifa member who incites violence in otherwise relatively peaceful protests.” Police say he’s known as “Commander Red.” > > Green Bay police say they were called for “a whole bunch of white people with sticks, baseball bats and helmets headed… towards the police” on Walnut St. near Webster Ave. > > “I don’t know who comes to a protest with a baseball bat for anything other than criminal or illegal activity,” said Green Bay Police Chief Andrew Smith. > > A responding officer says he saw four individuals walking towards a protest with baseball bats. One man was wearing a metal helmet with goggles and military-style gear with multiple pouches, and was carrying an Antifa flag. When the officer pulled his squad car in front of the group, they ran away. The officer caught Banta, who was carrying the flag, and says Banta “dropped into the fetal position and began crying.” Flame thrower. Baseball bats. What’s the worst that could have happened? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/108 "2020-09-02T19:41:06Z")
Commander Red is an anarchist, not Antifa. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfPdk2sUcAAoSex.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfPdk2sUcAAoSex.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/109 "2020-09-02T20:58:33Z")
A three year old tweet? I suppose it’s unreasonable that he would have expanded his circle of ‘friends’ since then. And that the police would have classified him based on whose company he has been keeping lately. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/110 "2020-09-02T21:16:05Z")
Or maybe he’s really one of those anarchist infiltrators that @DrDeth keeps going on about. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/111 "2020-09-02T22:32:18Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > So I’ll wait to hear details. Was the shooter just pissed off at these assholes and shot one out of anger? Did he go out that night planning to murder a Trump supporter? Or did he have a genuine fear that he (or another protestor) was about to be beaten, possibly to death? Apparently the guy who was shot [was a saint](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/08/aaron-jay-danielson-died-from-gunshot-wound-to-chest-medical-examiner-says.html). With bear spray. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/112 "2020-09-03T03:45:22Z")
Naw- to the MAGA people, anyone bad is antifa. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/113 "2020-09-04T17:07:28Z")
Reinoehl is dead, Jim. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/us/portland-protest-suspected-killer/index.html) > After the shooting, Reinoehl said he realized what had happened and “was confident that I did not hit anyone innocent.” He then left the scene feeling “totally justified [that] had I not acted I am confident that my friend, and I’m sure I, would have been killed.” > > Reinoehl said he had decided to speak out because “there’s been a lot of propaganda put out there.” > > “What they’ve done is they’ve tried to make it look like we’re all terrorists. And they’re trying to make me look like a murderer,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/114 "2020-09-04T23:49:36Z")
He was. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/115 "2020-09-05T00:47:49Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > And you know it was absolutely not self defense because…? … ---
**Author:** ![WitnessMe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/witnessme/32/4597_2.png) [@WitnessMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WitnessMe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/116 "2020-09-05T01:52:28Z")
What? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/117 "2020-09-05T02:58:14Z")
**eenerms** can’t be arsed to wait for facts and has jumped to the conclusion that Dainelson was murdered but, for some odd reason, is incapable of articulating the reason for having jumped. ---
**Author:** ![WitnessMe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/witnessme/32/4597_2.png) [@WitnessMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WitnessMe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/118 "2020-09-05T03:01:51Z")
Ah ok, gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/119 "2020-09-05T03:09:24Z")
Welcome to our community, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339/120 "2020-09-05T11:55:20Z")
He said on VICE that he shot he guy in Portland, that’s why There was a warrant out for his arrest. He said he was Antifa All the Way… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-worst-thing-antifa-has-ever-done/917339.md?page=7)