# What's Trump's end game for the last 14 days of his presidency? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599 "2021-01-03T22:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/201 "2021-01-10T02:19:06Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > (I cannot imagine the self-loathing Ted Cruz must feel having to support Trump after the shitty things he’s said about Cruz’s father and wife) That seems to be assuming that Ted Cruz has the capacity to feel shame, which IMHO is contradicted by a [recent tweet](https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-8-2021) where he finger-wagged at Biden (for using the phrase “the Big Lie” about the “stolen election” myth), saying “This kind of vicious partisan rhetoric only tears our country apart”. I mean, deliberately promoting lies about electoral fraud and calls for a violent insurrection, and then complaining that being called out on your lies is “vicious partisan rhetoric” that “tears our country apart”? Now that’s chutzpah. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/202 "2021-01-10T02:30:35Z")
His options for what to do for his remaining days have been lessened just a bit, because he just got banned from another social media- Pornhub. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/203 "2021-01-10T02:32:21Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > That seems to be assuming that Ted Cruz has the capacity to feel shame, which IMHO is contradicted by a [recent tweet](https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-8-2021) where he finger-wagged at Biden (for using the phrase “the Big Lie” about the “stolen election” myth), saying “This kind of vicious partisan rhetoric only tears our country apart”. It would not surprise me to learn that Ted Cruz has literally chewed his own testicles off to win approval from Trump voters. He is truly a pathetic creature of his political ambitions (never to be realized, I hope), but in some effort at empathy I assume deep down he knows his humiliation and wishes he could be a better class of grub. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/204 "2021-01-10T02:47:46Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > he knows his humiliation and wishes he could be a better class of grub. - I don’t think he can get much grubbier. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/205 "2021-01-10T03:12:28Z")
Satire, sorry. > ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/206 "2021-01-10T03:21:14Z")
Too bad. On the plus side, it means his little hands will be kept busy. ---
**Author:** ![deRanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@deRanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deRanger)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/207 "2021-01-10T03:24:59Z")
On or just before Biden’s inauguration DC police must be aware tRump will unleash his Dogs of War again, but this time with lots more killing than at the Capitol assault. Expect hundreds or even thousands of ARMED followers to run amok, including many of the rioters at the Capitol not arrested yet. Authorities must monitor incoming flights, hotel reservations, etc. for known tRump extremists and meet them with overwhelming force when they start to mass. Anything less is willful negligence. FBI, National Guard, Homeland Security need to mobilize and coordinate, which takes time. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/208 "2021-01-10T05:52:51Z")
National Guard from Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are in DC until at least the inauguration. > **[National Guard Deployed to D.C. Through Inauguration](https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-07/national-guard-deployed-to-dc-through-inauguration)** > > The dramatic deployment comes as local and federal authorities struggle to explain how President Donald Trump’s supporters were able to storm and overtake parts of the U.S. Capitol. Pennsylvania is prepared to use lethal force if necessary. > **[Incoming National Guard troops will be armed with lethal force, Pennsylvania...](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/armed-national-guard-troops-arriving-from-six-states-inauguration/65-a71e778b-177a-4c1f-b972-440c575f3e87)** > > More than 5,000 troops from six states will join the 1,100 D.C. National Guard members currently working in Washington, according to Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/209 "2021-01-10T06:25:44Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > National Guard from Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and New York are in DC until at least the inauguration. Trump does have a counter to them. He could federalize them and order them home. Let’s hope he doesn’t think of that. Also hope those units are not as infested with MAGAts as most police forces are. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/210 "2021-01-10T14:01:47Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > He could federalize them and order them home. The president can call the National Guard into federal service for certain conditions, but I’m not sure that means he can order them to stand down when he’s not the one who called them in to start with. If that happened it would probably result in a court case to establish a precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/211 "2021-01-10T17:14:32Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Nope; conservatives are quite willing to get over any misogyny when it comes to an attractive female candidate to parrots their views, e.g. Sarah Palin. I question this. Back before I retired, I worked with a lot of extreme right wingers. And I remember several of them expressing dismay at the idea that John McCain had picked a woman as his running mate. Running the country ain’t no job for the womenfolk. Everyone knows it goes against nature. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/212 "2021-01-10T17:19:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Running the country ain’t no job for the womenfolk.- In that specific instance, they were right. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/213 "2021-01-10T17:24:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > In that specific instance, they were right. Stopped clocks being what they are. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/214 "2021-01-10T17:25:07Z")
I think even the most misogynistic conservatives would be in board with Ivanka as a “Ma Ferguson” — i.e. a female puppet to hold office while a man really runs things. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/215 "2021-01-10T17:41:35Z")
> [@deRanger](#): > > On or just before Biden’s inauguration DC police must be aware tRump will unleash his Dogs of War again I think Trump lost his ability to give orders to the white supremacy crowd. He told them to riot, they followed his commands, and then he denounced them afterwards. I feel if Trump tries to unleash any Dogs of War next week, he won’t get a lot of takers. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/216 "2021-01-10T17:42:48Z")
See also **[Eva Perón](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Per%C3%B3n)** and **[Cristina Fernández de Kirchner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristina_Fern%C3%A1ndez_de_Kirchner)**. As long as she’s good-looking the male MAGAts will be fine with it. It’s the gender-inverse of the “Men want to be him; women want to be with him” school of infatuation with larger-than-life characters. On a related note, If Hillary had been hot the attacks on her dating back to Bill’s presidency would have been very different. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/217 "2021-01-10T17:49:26Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think Trump lost his ability to give orders to the white supremacy crowd. He told them to riot, they followed his commands, and then he denounced them afterwards. I feel if Trump tries to unleash any Dogs of War next week, he won’t get a lot of takers. Dunno about that. > **[As Inauguration Nears, Concern Of More Violence Grows](https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/09/955289141/as-inauguration-nears-concern-grows-of-more-violence-to-come)** > > Wednesday's violent insurrection at the Capitol led to the deaths of five people. Some lawmakers and others worry that it was just the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/218 "2021-01-10T18:01:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > Running the country ain’t no job for the womenfolk.- > > In that specific instance, they were right. Sarah Palin wasn’t disqualified for the job by being a woman. She was disqualified for the job by being an idiot. Dan Quayle was similarly disqualified. But you’ll notice who got enough right wing votes to get elected and who didn’t. To expand on that point, here’s some people who tried to get nominated in the Republican party but couldn’t get enough Republican votes; Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Elizabeth Dole, Carly Fiorina, Bobby Jindal, Alan Keyes. This why I laugh every time I hear conservatives saying Nikki Haley is the ideal Republican candidate. It shows a stunning lack of awareness of who the Democratic base will vote for and who the Republican base will not vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/219 "2021-01-10T18:05:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Dunno about that. I agree the potential for rioting is still there. I’m just saying Trump has lost the ability to call up a riot. In fact, the best thing Trump could do right now is call for white nationalists to show up and protest the inauguration. If he was making the call, they would probably all stay home just to spite him. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/220 "2021-01-10T18:06:11Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > The president can call the National Guard into federal service for certain conditions, but I’m not sure that means he can order them to stand down when he’s not the one who called them in to start with. If that happened it would probably result in a court case to establish a precedent. Even if he could under normal circumstances, I think the events of the last week make crystal clear that anyone in the military can assume that any order from the CinC is an illegal order. His orders would now surely be ignored by anyone who is not in collusion with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599.md?page=12)