# What's Trump's end game for the last 14 days of his presidency?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 3, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599 "2021-01-03T22:58:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/61 "2021-01-04T21:20:28Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> But, given the rush to get enough fuel there to fully fuel that plane, isn’t it fun to speculate where a fully fueled 757 could fly to from there? -

I would imagine that AF1 is _always_ fully fueled. You never know if the Pres. would have to be airborne and heading for the West Coast in an emergency.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/62 "2021-01-04T21:35:51Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > If Trump decides to skip off to Russia, are the S.S. agents assigned to him required to go along? What does it take to get agents assigned to a ex-Pres removed from that assignment?
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> I can’t imagine that they would be required to go, in the sense that they could always resign.
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> "Your mission, should you choose to accept it . . . "
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> What happens if they don’t accept it?

If he was to skip to e.g. Russia, how likely is Russian government to accept a USSS contingent guarding Trump the private US citizen? IMO not very.

The Russian authorities may well encourage Trump to hire private guards, or even be accorded some from the FSB. But USSS? My Magic 8-Ball says “Nope. NFW” Discobot says  
@Discobot fortune

ETA: It seems I disagree with that useless blob o’ bits.

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**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/63 "2021-01-04T21:35:54Z")

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> 🔮 Yes

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/64 "2021-01-04T21:37:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If Trump decides to skip off to Russia, are the S.S. agents assigned to him required to go along? What does it take to get agents assigned to a ex-Pres removed from that assignment?

Just tell him that as he isn’t President any more, executive privilege no longer applies, so the Secret Service agents will be free to testify to anything they witness while they’re on duty, and he’ll voluntarily waive their protection himself.

Is it true? Who cares? Tell him anyway.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/65 "2021-01-04T21:39:34Z")

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I conclude that the Pronouncements of Discobot, Blessed be ~~He~~  ~~They~~ It must now be taken with a hefty grain of potassium cyanide.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/66 "2021-01-04T21:56:15Z")

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Hmmm. It appears that Trump Turnberry is closed until 5 February due to COVID. I know he owns the place, so maybe he’s just planning on having the links to himself?

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/67 "2021-01-04T22:25:58Z")

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A golf outing in Scotland in January? I’ve never been there, certainly not in the winter, but do people play golf this time of year in Scotland?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/68 "2021-01-04T23:09:02Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I would imagine that AF1 is _always_ fully fueled. You never know if the Pres. would have to be airborne and heading for the West Coast in an emergency.

Like… for instance… Forest Fires… \< cough \> \< cough \>

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/69 "2021-01-04T23:31:36Z")

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Could Scotland not tell him to fuck off? Extraordinary step, I admit. But I’d love to see it from the land that coined C.F.S.G.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/70 "2021-01-04T23:46:26Z")

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I’d like Scotland to surround CFSG golf course with wind mills. No strike that, coal mines or peat operations. Through in a few stock yards while they are at it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/71 "2021-01-04T23:47:24Z")

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According to [weather.com](http://weather.com), Glasgow will have highs in the 30’s/low 40’sF and Edinburgh about the same. Presume the weather would be worse north of there. So possible, but surely not as comfortable as Mar-A-Lago…

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/72 "2021-01-04T23:51:32Z")

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> [@Chad\_Sudan](#):
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> I’ll give him this – he’s the only president who could keep people awake wondering whether the attempted coup is to be launched through the Electoral College or the Defense Department.

At the risk of derailing, I would beg to differ with this. True, Trump is exceptionally stupid, dishonest, and selfish. But apart from that, I believe these broadside attacks on democracy were inevitable from whatever Republican president followed Obama in 2016.

Ted Cruz absolutely would have… is currently helping… to do the same thing. Pence would have done the same. They’re just responding to what Republican voters want, and what they want is to prevent another Obama (or any other Democrat) by any means necessary. And I’m not sure those voters will ever quit wanting that.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/73 "2021-01-04T23:52:00Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> A golf outing in Scotland in January? I’ve never been there, certainly not in the winter, but do people play golf this time of year in Scotland?

Thursday’s weather in Glasgow, 50 km from the golf course:

-2 C and sleet in the morning, turning to clouds and +2C in the afternoon. Not great golf weather.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/74 "2021-01-05T00:28:51Z")

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Oh come on, these are Scots! Just put on another sheep and go out and whack those balls!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/75 "2021-01-05T00:34:37Z")

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“Och, it’s a fine, fine day for ~~motorcar racing~~ fleeing felon golfing!”

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/76 "2021-01-05T00:55:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Not great golf weather.

On the other hand, it’s Fine Golf Cheating Weather!

“Mr. Trump, we couldn’t find your balls.”  
“I hear that a lot. Server Incompetence, remove two strokes from my score. Next hole…”

\< electric cart scoots off \>

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/77 "2021-01-05T00:57:25Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> “Mr. Trump, we couldn’t find your balls.”

Look under the mushroom.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-end-game-for-the-last-14-days-of-his-presidency/929599/78 "2021-01-05T01:09:28Z")

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1. Make money
2. See #1 above

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> Look under the mushroom.

“Oh, groundskeeper…! Could you remove that offending mushroom please?”

“It’s not the wee mushroom that’s the problem There’s 25 stone of slimy roots it’s attached to.  
I’ll need a crane…”

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> I can see some tense conversations and moments on the airplane around this, between the crew of the plane and the Secret Service.

Between _him_ on one side and the crew and Secret Service on the other. The instant he stops being president the Pilot in Command of what is now just callsigned something like _“US Air Force (tail/mission number) Heavy”_ obeys the legal chain of command and so does the Secret Service. They are tasked with his _protection_ not with executing his will. It would be an unpleasant few hours of ranting and yelling on his part but no debate.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> > But, given the rush to get enough fuel there to fully fuel that plane, isn’t it fun to speculate where a fully fueled 757 could fly to from there? -
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> I would imagine that AF1 is _always_ fully fueled.

Yeah, seriously, of course they’d have to be sure there is a full fuel supply for the plane, even for the simple reason that it has to _come back_ to Andrews at some point, with or without him.

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