# What's Trump's October Surprise? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 17, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544 "2020-07-17T03:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/263 "2020-10-15T23:15:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > If any one of trump’s kids was involved in a scandal, you know what they’d say “Well, that’s not the Prez, it’s a adult child. Nothing to do with trump.” If it weren’t for double standards, Trump-fans would have no standards at all. . . . > [@Skywatcher](#): > > What would happen if, rather than conceding, Trump goes full-on paranoid and the 25th Amendment is invoked? . It doesn’t matter how full-on paranoid Trump goes. Mitch McConnell and the Cabinet are all-in on Trump, it would seem. I’m one of those who hoped for months that the major donors would cry ‘enough’ to Mitch, and he’d then get the ball rolling on the 25th, issuing instructions to the Cabinet, as he is able to do because of his level of power. But this late, this close to November 3, I don’t see it happening. The GOP won’t want the chaos that would cause. So Donald can come out with his underpants on his head tonight, and no Republican will utter a word about the 25th. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/264 "2020-10-15T23:29:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Mitch McConnell and the Cabinet are all-in on Trump, it would seem. Republican senators, including Moscow Mitch, are starting to notice the writing on the wall. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/republican-senate-fears-election/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/republican-senate-fears-election/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/265 "2020-10-15T23:51:37Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Republican senators, including Moscow Mitch, are starting to notice the writing on the wall. I think that’s right. However, I’d be shocked if they made any attempt to remove him–even through bribery, by urging him to “retire due to family health issues” or such–before November 3. It would create an uproar; if they thought such an uproar would help win Senate and House seats, they might go for it. But that seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/266 "2020-10-15T23:55:23Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So Donald can come out with his underpants on his head tonight, and no Republican will utter a word about the 25th. [[Album] State of the Union ![](https://i.imgur.com/vQ7gDr4.jpeg?fb "State of the Union") ](https://imgur.com/a/fD1ttH0) ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/267 "2020-10-16T00:58:10Z")
Too little too late, but some folks are at least admitting they are smelling the coffee now: > **[GOP senator unloads on Trump in constituent call, saying 'he mocks...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/ben-sasse-trump-criticism/index.html)** > > Republican Sen. Ben Sasse criticized President Donald Trump earlier this week during a phone call with constituents, saying a number of unflattering things about the President, including that he's "flirted with White supremacists" and "kisses... ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/268 "2020-10-16T01:15:56Z")
It’s a thought that has occurred to many, I suspect. . . . > [@romansperson](#): > > Too little too late, but some folks are at least admitting they are smelling the coffee now: Ben Sasse doesn’t have the courage to say any such thing on-camera. He wants to play it both ways. A pox on these cowardly collaborators. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/269 "2020-10-16T01:22:55Z")
The Hunter Biden story was completely ignored by Trump at his town hall tonight. Not a single mention. And after all that work by Rudes! Again, a complete non-story. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/270 "2020-10-16T01:42:11Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The Hunter Biden story was completely ignored by Trump at his town hall tonight. Not a single mention. And after all that work by Rudes! What, Trump’s town hall is over already? It’s only 18:40 (PDT) here. What time did it start? How long did it run? Did Trump run out of steam and keel over in mid-sentence? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/271 "2020-10-16T02:46:58Z")
Nope, he got through the hour. Problem is the Biden townhall went two hours and DJT only went for an hour. Most of it arguing with the moderator. And being clearly annoyed with some of the questions the plebes had the nerve to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/272 "2020-10-16T02:53:32Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > and the counter-factual stuff Tactful. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/273 "2020-10-16T03:10:42Z")
OK, so if he votes _not_ to confirm Amy, then i will say he has some spine and ethics. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/274 "2020-10-16T11:47:55Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > the counter-factual stuff like ‘Trump is protecting pre-existing conditions’ just makes me roll my eyes. You meant “LIES,” right? It’s too late in the game for euphemisms. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/275 "2020-10-16T13:06:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You meant “LIES,” right? It’s too late in the game for euphemisms. 🤨 I mean that they’re the direct opposite of the truth - there are usually lies in political campaigns, but they’re also ‘true, from a certain point of view’ or vague enough to warrant an eye roll but not much more. “Trump is protecting pre-existing conditions” is the direct opposite of what he’s actually doing, it’s not a vague statement like “Trump is improving healthcare for all”. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/276 "2020-10-16T16:26:35Z")
[White House was warned Giuliani was target of Russian intelligence operation to feed misinformation to Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-biden-ukraine-russian-disinformation/2020/10/15/43158900-0ef5-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html) > Trump had “shrugged his shoulders” at O’Brien’s warning, the former official said, and dismissed concern about his lawyer’s activities by saying, “That’s Rudy.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/277 "2020-10-21T03:11:29Z")
> **[Trump Calls on Barr to ‘Act’ Against Biden Before Election (Published 2020)](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-calls-on-barr-to-act-against-biden-before-election/)** > > The president is increasingly fixated on seeing criminal action against his political opponents. _President Donald Trump on Tuesday called on Attorney General William Barr to take action before Election Day against his Democratic opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, over his son’s foreign work, an extraordinary attempt to pressure the government’s chief law enforcement to help him politically._ _The president made the remark during an interview with “Fox & Friends,” after days of caustic criticism of Biden, the moderators of the presidential debates, the news media and, increasingly, Barr. He recently said the attorney general would go down in history “as a very sad, sad situation” if he did not indict Democrats like Biden and former President Barack Obama._ _“We’ve got to get the attorney general to act,” Trump said Tuesday when asked whether he wants to see investigations into unverified information about Biden and his son Hunter that the president’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, claims he recently obtained. …_ _Trump called on Barr to appoint a special prosecutor or similar official, saying: “He’s got to act. And he’s got to act fast.”_ _“This is major corruption, and this has to be known about before the election. And, by the way, we’re doing very well. We’re going to win the election.”_ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/278 "2020-10-21T03:17:27Z")
> **[Threatening emails telling voters to vote for Trump target Brevard County...](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/20/brevard-voters-threatened-emails-purportedly-proud-boys/5997458002/)** > > The sender of the email claims to have "gained access to the entire voting infrastructure" _Voters across Brevard County Tuesday afternoon received threatening emails purporting to come from the Proud Boys, a far-right group that espouses militant authoritarian ideology, telling them to vote for President Trump, or else._ _The emails appear to follow a similar format, and come from the email address “[info@officialproudboys.com](mailto:info@officialproudboys.com).”_ _“Hi (name) We are in possession of all your information You are currently registered as a Democrat and we know this because we have gained access into the entire voting infrastructure. You will vote for Trump on Election Day or we will come after you. Change your party affiliation to Republican to let us know you received our message and will comply. We will know which candidate you voted for. I would take this seriously if I were you. (Voter’s address),” it read._ ---
**Author:** ![Schmendryck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Schmendryck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schmendryck)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/279 "2020-10-21T03:37:54Z")
The "October Surprise " will happen just before Halloween and will be the horror-show of Drumpf, heavily over-medicated on his lethal combo of Adderall & Steroids & infant-stem-cell derived COVID treatments, exposing his stubby mushroom on national television during a presser exclaiming “I’m bigger than alla you!!!” before being forcibly subdued and dragged away from the podium by Secret Service agents. Keighleigh McIneighneigghhh goes on Fox the next day to complain about “leftist members of the secret service who didnt allow our president to express his magnificent manhood,” and the next day a brigade of Proud Boys & 3%ers all march with their dinkuses out and all the closeted child-molesters in QAnon all expose their well-grabbed schvankmeisters in public solidarity. Wait for it. It’s coming. But who has to wipe it up? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/280 "2020-10-21T04:27:02Z")
It’s pretty sad that this doesn’t have the nation up in arms. Trump has so flooded the public arena with bullshit that this hardly gets mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/281 "2020-10-21T04:48:29Z")
After watching Trump over the last few days and hearing about his hissy fit concerning the 60 minutes interview with Leslie Stahl, it seems that Trump’s October surprise will be a spot on, perfect Kanye West impersonation. It doesn’t seem to matter that West was unable to be on the ballot in all those states, his message and personality seem to be well represented by the Republican candidate in this election. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/282 "2020-10-21T04:52:57Z")
I gotta say, I think I’m going to watch 60 Minutes this Sunday for the time in 30 years, and I thank Donald Trump for drawing my attention (and millions of others) to his performance well in advance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544.md?page=15)