# What's Trump's October Surprise?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 17, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544 "2020-07-17T03:13:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/283 "2020-10-21T05:17:15Z")

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I know, and yet, “hunter Biden” over and over.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/284 "2020-10-21T12:58:00Z")

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I’ve already voted, and technically was registered as a Republican in 2016 in Ohio (to vote for Kasich over Trump in the primaries), so I would be unlikely to get said email.

That being said, if I hadn’t yet voted and did get that email, I’d immediately contact the FBI and cooperate fully with them, and be even more motivated to vote Trump out than ever.

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/285 "2020-10-21T13:02:18Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> As you are not part of their terrified base, it seems scattershot to you. If you were one of their intended targets, then all of tha

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> As you are not part of their terrified base, it seems scattershot to you. If you were one of their intended targets, then all of that is meant to make you fearful and desiring of an authoritarian to protect you from the ebil libruls.

This right here. This is my entire family of in-laws who have lived in rural Ohio their entire lives. They are fed a constant stream of propaganda and honestly believe everywhere outside their rural cornfield existence is anarchy and chaos. It doesn’t matter that when they visit us in Columbus they can see that the city is not burned down, blacks are not killing people in the streets and rioting, that the gay and lesbian friends/neighbors are just normal people who are friendly and kind to them. Nope, America has been destroyed by libruhls and only Trump can stop them.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/286 "2020-10-21T15:27:52Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> [Florida Today](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/20/brevard-voters-threatened-emails-purportedly-proud-boys/5997458002/)
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> ### [Threatening emails telling voters to vote for Trump target Brevard County…](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/20/brevard-voters-threatened-emails-purportedly-proud-boys/5997458002/)
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> The sender of the email claims to have “gained access to the entire voting infrastructure”
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> [snip]

> [@Deeg](#):
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> It’s pretty sad that this doesn’t have the nation up in arms. Trump has so flooded the public arena with bullshit that this hardly gets mentioned.

Actually, this story is on the “front page” of the digital Washington Post today, above the “virtual fold”:

> **[U.S. government concludes Iran was behind threatening emails sent to Democrats](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/20/proud-boys-emails-florida/)**
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> The emails claimed to be from the Proud Boys, a far-right group supportive of President Trump, but appeared instead to be a deceptive campaign making use of a vulnerability in the organization’s online network.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/287 "2020-10-21T16:43:27Z")

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Surprise!

> **[Rudy Giuliani faces questions after compromising scene in new Borat film](https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film)**
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> Trump’s personal attorney has indiscreet encounter with actor playing Borat’s daughter in hotel room during pandemic

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/288 "2020-10-21T17:09:25Z")

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How many times are they going to run the “OMG! Someone associated with a Democratic candidate used email!”? I think most of the voters have correctly observed that Hunter Biden is not on the ballot.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/289 "2020-10-21T19:36:16Z")

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I wonder if it’s ever so possible that the man fooled by Borat may have been susceptible to being fooled by trained foreign intelligence agents.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/290 "2020-10-21T19:57:22Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Surprise!

Jesus. The man is _non compos mentis._ Someone needs to protect him from himself during his obvious and public mental decline.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/291 "2020-10-21T20:00:40Z")

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Are we sure he wasn’t stupid all along?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/292 "2020-10-21T20:16:11Z")

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He has been stupid for a long while, but he has now descended into senility as far as I can see.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/293 "2020-10-21T20:17:33Z")

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Right, if it’s that easy for a comedian to get him in a compromised position, then how about trained foreign service agents.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/294 "2020-10-21T20:30:39Z")

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I supported Giuliani’s brief presidential run, and I can’t tell if I changed or he did. Maybe both. But, either way, I’m embarrassed.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/295 "2020-10-21T20:36:46Z")

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In 2007/8, when Rudy was running for president, I had a client in Washington, DC, and would fly into Washington Reagan every month or two for meetings with them.

The day after Guiliani dropped out of the presidential race in early 2008, I was at Reagan, waiting for my flight home to Chicago, and a gift shop there had “Rudy 2008” t-shirts on sale for $1. I bought one, because I can always use a t-shirt that I care nothing about, for wearing while I do yardwork. 😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/296 "2020-10-21T21:19:37Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [Florida Today](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/20/brevard-voters-threatened-emails-purportedly-proud-boys/5997458002/)
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> > > ### [Threatening emails telling voters to vote for Trump target Brevard County…](https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2020/10/20/brevard-voters-threatened-emails-purportedly-proud-boys/5997458002/)
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> > > The sender of the email claims to have “gained access to the entire voting infrastructure”
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> > > [snip]
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> It’s pretty sad that this doesn’t have the nation up in arms. Trump has so flooded the public arena with bullshit that this hardly gets mentioned.

More coverage:

> **[Voters In Florida And Alaska Receive Emails Warning 'Vote For Trump Or Else!'](https://www.npr.org/2020/10/21/926139270/voters-in-florida-and-alaska-receive-emails-warning-vote-for-trump-or-else?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)**
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> Cybersecurity experts say the origin of the messages remains unknown and may be the product of a foreign disinformation effort.

> … Some of the emails were purportedly sent by the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group with ties to white nationalism that has clashed with law enforcement during recent protests. But cybersecurity [experts say](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88a43b/proud-boys-emails-threatening-florida-voters-appear-to-use-spoofed-email-address) the origin of the messages is unclear, suggesting some of the emails appear to have originated from an Estonian server. The Proud Boys chairman [has denied](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/20/proud-boys-emails-florida/) the group was involved.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/297 "2020-10-21T21:23:33Z")

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Problem for the Proud Boys is that it is believable that they sent out the e-mails and their denials have to be verified.

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/298 "2020-10-21T23:08:51Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I supported Giuliani’s brief presidential run, and I can’t tell if I changed or he did. Maybe both. But, either way, I’m embarrassed.

I was never a big fan of his and had no interest in his presidential run, but as mayor of NYC he handled 9/11 really incredibly well. It’s strange to see him embracing the Trumpster Fire so enthusiastically now, but then that’s true of a lot of Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/299 "2020-10-21T23:32:18Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Surprise!

The newest euphemism I’ve read about this is “tucking in my shirt.”.

I read the article on Wapo and could not remember ever cringing or shuddering so hard seeing the news. I still want to see the movie, but I won’t be able to watch that scene.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/300 "2020-10-21T23:47:01Z")

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Looks like the FBI is about to announce their October surprise.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/301 "2020-10-21T23:58:11Z")

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[LIVE: Iran, Russia found to have ‘taken specific actions’ to influence election, FBI say](https://abc7chicago.com/politics/fbi-makes-announcement-on-election-security/7226241/)

Of course, Individual-1 will state that he’s checked with his buddy Vlad and it’s all fake news.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-trumps-october-surprise/915544/302 "2020-10-22T00:12:26Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> I was never a big fan of his and had no interest in his presidential run, but as mayor of NYC he handled 9/11 really incredibly well.

I disagree. I lived in lower Manhattan at the time, but that’s another thread. There probably was one.

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