# What's up with all the tomndebb haters?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2007, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839 "2007-03-14T02:53:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/21 "2007-03-14T03:48:36Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Why not, they are more offensive than the average religionists on this board?  
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At times that may be. The OP, however suggested/implied that only the creationist ones were unreasonable.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/22 "2007-03-14T03:51:33Z")

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[QUOTE=badchad]  
At times that may be. The OP, however suggested/implied that only the creationist ones were unreasonable.  
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It was a joke, like the parent killing part. Try reading it again in full instead of parsing for religious debating points.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/23 "2007-03-14T03:51:58Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Nah, I do not mind, if he does not see a difference between teaching mythology as Science and Mythology as Mythology, than he is a bigger idiot than I thought he was. I think it is better for someone non-religious to answer his BS questions. It keeps the Bible out of the conversation.

Jim  
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Yes, but this thread wasn’t about religion, or the Bible. It’s about opinions regarding a mod. There are about 10 threads going about religion. Why turn this one into another thread about religion because Badchad happened to see the word creationism?

It’s hijacking of the worst kind. Talk about RO threads. I can stay out of them if I chose to but turning every pit thread into a religious discussion is ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/24 "2007-03-14T03:55:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
Yes, but this thread wasn’t about religion, or the Bible. It’s about opinions regarding a mod. There are about 10 threads going about religion. Why turn this one into another thread about religion because Badchad happened to see the word creationism?

It’s hijacking of the worst kind. Talk about RO threads. I can stay out of them if I chose to but turning every pit thread into a religious discussion is ridiculous.  
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Oh, good point. However, I only recall Tom being pitted over religion. I think this one would have staggered that direction anyway.

When was the last pitting of Tom not tied to Extreme atheisms.

Damn, I am dumb, I forgot about this thread: [I have a problem with the moderator tomndebb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410763&highlight=Tomndebb) Not religious, just another very bad poster.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/25 "2007-03-14T03:57:23Z")

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**tomndebb** is cool by me. Smart guy, good mod.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/26 "2007-03-14T04:24:13Z")

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Seriously. **tom** , in addition to being as good a moderator as any, always has good answers for factual questions in GQ. The issue of people being against him is completely baffling to me. I’ve read the posts in which he supposedly said or did something unfair, and don’t understand what the hell people are getting worked up over. The whole thing is just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/27 "2007-03-14T04:36:23Z")

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I’ve never had any dealings with **tom** in his official capacity, but from what I’ve seen, I agree with everyone else. He’s respectful, tactful and thoughtful. If I had to have a hand slap, I believe I’d prefer it be from him the most. Of course there’s others, but I’ll only play one favorite. 😉 Anyway, I feel that those who ‘have a problem’ with him are malcontents destined to be pissed at _somebody_. **tom** is an easier scapegoat than I would be, seeing as how he doesn’t ever seem to stoop to the lowest common denominator.

But, if I have one complaint, it’s that he oughta change his name. For in the rare instance that he may impugn **debb** ’s honor. 😉 :eek:

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**Author:** ![badchad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@badchad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badchad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/28 "2007-03-14T04:43:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
Yes, but this thread wasn’t about religion, or the Bible. It’s about opinions regarding a mod. There are about 10 threads going about religion. Why turn this one into another thread about religion because Badchad happened to see the word creationism?  
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If the thread wasn’t at least somewhat related to religion then the dig against creationists shouldn’t have been in there.

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/da6949/32.png) [@Andrew\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_Bird)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/29 "2007-03-14T04:46:20Z")

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Is tomndebb one person? The looks like it might be for Tom and Debb. I picture a couple sitting down and discussing each post and arguing over the editing of each post before submitting.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/30 "2007-03-14T04:51:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Andrew Bird]  
Is tomndebb one person?  
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[tomndebb is one poster.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5647046#post5647046)

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/31 "2007-03-14T04:56:43Z")

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Got me. I’ve alwas liked Tomndebb. Badchadd just seems like a sad little monkey who needs attention but just doesnt know how to ask for it nicely.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/32 "2007-03-14T05:16:46Z")

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Tom is an excellent moderator, and 95% of the time an intelligent and logical poster. He just shouldn’t participate in religion threads. First of all, it takes two to make a flame war - I learned that 30 years ago. Second, he doesn’t seem to want to defend his beliefs, which is his privilege, but it makes some people go apeshit. Sometimes people push his buttons, but sometimes the buttons seem to push themselves. This doesn’t seem to happen in any other type of thread.

Maybe when he gets older he’ll realize the futility of doing anything but laughing at those who try to flame you.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/33 "2007-03-14T05:19:06Z")

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I think **Tom** should use more profanity.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/34 "2007-03-14T05:29:50Z")

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Tomndebb’s pleasant demeanor is clearly a ruse designed to make us all complacent. He is actually a werewolf! Lynch Tomndebb!

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/35 "2007-03-14T05:41:11Z")

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Good point. He acts like a townie, but his smooth delivery makes me suspicious. A Vote for Tomndebb!

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/36 "2007-03-14T05:58:59Z")

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I like **tomndebb**. And I think the Dope would be much better if there were more of him and fewer **badchad** s.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/37 "2007-03-14T06:01:18Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Seriously curious, who are the ‘all’? I am only aware of two and one is no longer posting at all. Can you link any of the others.

Otherwise I agree about Tom, he does an excellent job.

Jim  
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I think **Aeschines** has a hate-on for **tom** , but then, he’s a well-known lunatic.

In **badchad** ’s pit thread about **tom** , **magellan** and **ElvisL1ves** both dismissed him in terms that made it clear they had little respect for him as a poster and/or mod. I figure, if he’s pissed both of them off like that, he must be doing something right.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/38 "2007-03-14T06:06:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
That is not true.  
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Furthermore, it has nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus. Just another non-sequitor.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/39 "2007-03-14T06:06:08Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Any student that chooses may abstain from the pledge.  
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This might be the law, but in practice, we were **NOT** allowed to abstain from the pledge at my public school. When I was in the 3rd grade, even though I believed the pledge was “right”, I often thought of staying seated during it just to see what would happen. I never had the guts to do it but one of my classmates did and got paddled for it. I believe they called it insubordination.

The school faculty where I grew up was very adept at brow-beating religion and patriotism into the student body, and I’m quite sure that there was nothing the law could have done to stop them.

In other words, the argument that “any student who chooses so may abstain” is 100% bullshit and will never fly with me. The pledge should be banned, and the original manuscript pissed on.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-all-the-tomndebb-haters/395839/40 "2007-03-14T06:24:19Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
[tomndebb is one poster.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5647046#post5647046)  
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The one thing that bugs **Tapioca** about **Tomndebb** is when he speaks of himself in the third person

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