# What's up with Giuliani?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181 "2019-10-03T00:21:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181/21 "2019-10-06T23:29:52Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> It doesn’t seem to get a lot of press but Rudy has a couple of big (Ukrainian-American) friends/clients - Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman - who are looking for LNG contacts from Ukraine. They are rumored to be paying him and helping Trump by trashing Biden might just be a side hustle.
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> It is always about Energy and Money…

Perhaps it is getting more press. Here are articles about Parnas & Fruman - from the folks at [Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project](https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/meet-the-florida-duo-helping-giuliani-dig-dirt-for-trump-in-ukraine) and the [Miami Herald](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article235501772.html).

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181/22 "2019-10-07T00:34:40Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> That’s … an interesting accusation, coming from someone who cited a deceptively-edited YouTube video as a source earlier this week. \<smh\>
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> I only wonder: Do you realize that you’re promulgating pernicious nonsense, or are you actually taken in by it? _Chutzpah_, or credulity?
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> Enough; you have become tiresome. Иди и не беспокой меня больше.

Please do not post in languages other than English.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181/23 "2019-10-07T00:36:23Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Do you realize that for 8 long years we had a President who warmly welcomed anti-Semites like Al Sharpton to the White House? Изучи фактишки-то, потом вякай, дятлок.

This is a warning for personal insults. Also, please do not post in languages other than English.

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**Author:** ![Fentoine\_Lum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b77776/32.png) [@Fentoine\_Lum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fentoine_Lum)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-giuliani/841181/24 "2019-10-07T17:22:48Z")

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> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#):
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> I have a bunch of questions about Rudy Giuliani. I would like factual answers to my questions so I thought about posting in General Questions. The are political though, so maybe this thread belongs in Elections. That said, the questions I am asking are really legal questions, so I decided to put this in Great Debates. In no particular order:  
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> [li]Is Giuliani the President’s personal attorney (i.e. Trump’s attorney), or is he a government employee (like the White House Counsel) that serves the office of the President of the US?[/li][li]Does he have security clearance and does it matter?[/li][li]Has he been doing the work of (or for) the State Department (i.e. conducting diplomacy)? Is it legal for a private individual to conduct diplomacy for the US? Does it matter?[/li][li]How about the Justice Department, has he been working for them?[/li][li]If he has been conducting diplomacy or investigations for the US Government, can he really be said to have attorney/client privilege on his actions? If his actions are official (i.e. countenanced by the President or Attorney General), does this make a difference?[/li][/ul]

I rather think the question is, what is up with america.

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