# What's Up with Handshake Spitting? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076 "2008-12-14T02:10:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/1 "2008-12-14T02:10:31Z")
The wife and I watched the _Deadwood_ series on DVD. In it, they frequently spat in their hands before a handshake to seal a deal more firmly. Gross! I figured maybe that was some sort of Old West practice that had died out. Then this weeken, we watched _This Is England_, set in northern England in 1983, and they did the same thing! I am completely unfamiliar with this practice. I hope no one ever expects _moi_ to spit in _my_ hand before shaking with them, because if so, they’re going to be sorely disappointed. Just where does this come from anyway? It was completey unheard of where I grew up in West Texas. Never saw it in the Southwest or Hawaii, which are the other places I lived in the US. I don’t think I ever saw it in movies or on TV before _Deadwood_. ---
**Author:** ![EpicNonsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c37758/32.png) [@EpicNonsense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EpicNonsense)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/2 "2008-12-14T02:34:52Z")
I’d say it’s almost like the signature in blood type of thing, just a less intense version of it. Still though, the spitshake is pretty gross. I’ve never done it and probably won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/3 "2008-12-14T03:48:30Z")
It’s supposed to be an old horsetrading custom, possibly Irish, possibly “gypsy” (by this, I don’t know if other writers mean Romany or some itinerant group like Irish Travellers). And yeah, the symbolism of the exchange of fluids seems clear). ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/4 "2008-12-14T05:48:45Z")
I think it got banned in Ireland some years ago. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/5 "2008-12-15T00:20:55Z")
People still do it, especially Travellers. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/6 "2008-12-15T03:01:21Z")
I’m clear on the symbolism, but I was wondering where it came from and if it still existed and see it does. On _Deadwood_, they seemed to be striving for historical realism; if they did get that right, I wonder why the practice did not seem to make it out farther West. Or if it did, I never heard of it. ---
**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/7 "2008-12-15T03:31:04Z")
It was part of southern american culture as late as the Great Depression era. Or at least Harper Lee has led me to believe so. Scout and Atticus (in To Kill a Mockingbird) are making a deal regarding her staying in school, and he ‘will consider the bargain sealed without the usual formality’ when he sees her preparing to spit. The tone of the passage makes me think that the custom was falling out of favor, considered low class and vulgar, etc. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Am\_The\_Lorax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19adc/32.png) [@I\_Am\_The\_Lorax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Am_The_Lorax)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/8 "2008-12-15T17:58:59Z")
I can’t tell you anything about it historically, but I was born in New York in 1983, and as a kid, me and all my friends did it. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-handshake-spitting/477076/9 "2008-12-15T19:59:07Z")
As a kid I read (and loved) **the Great Brain** series and in one, our hero Tom becomes an Indian blood brother since he uncovered a corrupt Indian reservation official and saved the tribe from being deprived of their allotment of supplies. So in becoming a blood brother, Tom and the Indian chief have the palms of their hands slit and they then shake hands and (this is before the fear of blood born pathogens, AIDS and the like) with the ensuing exchange of fluids become, well, blood brothers. I would imagine for boys that spitting and then shaking hands is a watered down version of the general idea and hey, it beats other forms of fluid swaps that they could have explored.