# What's up with Israel (re covid)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-israel-re-covid/949223
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone
**Tags:** covid-quarantine
**Created:** [August 20, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-israel-re-covid/949223 "2021-08-20T14:51:38Z")
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### Author: ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-israel-re-covid/949223/5 "2021-08-20T20:00:05Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Israel has a large body of elderly citizens that were fully vaccinated by, say, late January 2021. Those early vaccinations are starting to offer waning protection, Israeli researchers have surmised.

Yep. However, their hospitalizations are skewing younger than past surges. So there are some younger people who are still not getting vaccinated.

@Trom and @puzzlegal posted some great articles, with graphs, showing what’s really going on in Israel.

> [@Early, but growing evidence vaccines less effective against Delta](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/early-but-growing-evidence-vaccines-less-effective-against-delta/945775/92):
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> Here is a terrific analysis of the recent Israeli data that is making the rounds showing decreased efficacy of vaccines vs. Delta. The author is Jeffrey S. Morris, PhD, Professor and Director of the Division of Biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine. The article is pretty dense, but very informative and the author does a nice job walking through things step by step. It’s worth the read. Long story short, the headlines claiming only 60-70% efficacy vs.…

> [@Early, but growing evidence vaccines less effective against Delta](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/early-but-growing-evidence-vaccines-less-effective-against-delta/945775/93):
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> Here’s a very readable blog post covering the same topic. This graph (from the blog) pretty much tells the story [[image] ](https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83b82f9e-927b-4924-ba59-b2868a680774_1561x1097.png)

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