# What's up with Mark E. Smith's face? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943 "2010-03-18T22:03:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/1 "2010-03-18T22:03:33Z")
Mark E. Smith of The Fall. Brilliant musician, [weird](http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/gd6885902mark-smith-of-the-fal-2809.jpg) [lookin’](http://philspector.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/mark-e-smith.jpg) [dude](http://www.michaelpollard.co.uk/images/portraits/10-mark-e-smith.jpg). I mean, he was actually quite attractive back in the day, but there’s still something about his face that seems ‘off’. I guess my question is, does he have a congenital defect or is he just on the weird side of the human face spectrum? ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/2 "2010-03-18T22:12:13Z")
I’m not seeing it. His face is unique in the same way that most people’s faces are unique. ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/3 "2010-03-18T22:15:19Z")
I think he’s just on the unique face side, but I wouldn’t consider it weird. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/4 "2010-03-18T22:16:35Z")
“Kinda funny lookin’.” ---
**Author:** ![Rrose\_Selavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rrose\_Selavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rrose_Selavy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/5 "2010-03-18T22:25:58Z")
true, the years have not been kind to him. or he might have [acromegaly.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly) ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/6 "2010-03-18T23:15:23Z")
Carlsberg special brew, for breakfast, for 40 years. He was pretty sharp looking in his younger days, alright. He is not appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/7 "2010-03-19T03:05:03Z")
His eyes are wide-set (a distinctly feminine trait) and kind of angled a bit, down at the outside corners, and rather asymmetrical (always funny-looking) with each other. He also has a heart-shaped face with a delicate, diminutive jawline, although his chin is masculine enough. So his eyes dominate his face in a pixie-ish way that in itself (without the odd tilt and asymmetricality, that is) would be quite attractive in a gamine like, say, the young Audrey Hepburn. MES’s eyes remind me of those of [U.S. hockey legend Mark Johnson](http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/miracle/johnson.jpg), although their faces are very different otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/8 "2010-03-19T03:59:47Z")
> [@Electric\_Warrior](#): > > I mean, he was actually quite attractive back in the day, but there’s still something about his face that seems ‘off’. I guess my question is, does he have a congenital defect or is he just on the weird side of the human face spectrum? [Amphetamine](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8fS9_Cpuow&feature=related) [Sulphate](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTJdWN6BqwU&feature=related) [Totally Wired](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWVk3h2SA8&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/9 "2010-03-19T04:30:53Z")
[L… A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDq5KKNVbA) [pROLE aRT tHREAT](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d24UW4Ye5XE) [fit and working again](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xcgFFTYb8) [Bremen Nacht](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM2lZofonSA&feature=related) 11111111111 ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/10 "2010-03-19T05:39:17Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > [L… A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxDq5KKNVbA) > > [pROLE aRT tHREAT](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d24UW4Ye5XE) > > [fit and working again](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1xcgFFTYb8) > > [Bremen Nacht](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM2lZofonSA&feature=related) Whenever I hear/read his name I always actually think of [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3pSuGMGmRU). ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/11 "2010-03-19T06:08:29Z")
It’s just that his excessively drooping upper and lower eyelids really drag the sides of his eyes down. His eyeballs seem to be in the right position. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/12 "2010-03-19T10:52:56Z")
He got old, is all. See _Richards, Keef_… Also, companionship keeps one young, I find, and his friends, well, they ain’t enough for one hand. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-mark-e-smiths-face/532943/13 "2010-03-19T13:55:38Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Whenever I hear/read his name I always actually think of [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3pSuGMGmRU). Never heard that before. 😃