# What's up with the Huma Abedin hate among Hillary's team? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 19, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164 "2016-12-19T18:26:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/1 "2016-12-19T18:26:10Z")
[Clinton advisers point fingers at Huma Abedin, inner circle for loss](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/clinton-advisers-point-fingers-at-huma-abedin-inner-circle-for-loss.html) > [@](#): > > While many of Hillary Clinton’s top advisers have focused their post-presidential election fury on blaming alleged Russian interference and FBI Director James Comey for Clinton’s loss, some in the so-called “Hillaryland” orbit are looking inward, including pointing fingers at Clinton’s most-trusted aide: Huma Abedin. > > “The real anger is toward Hillary’s inner circle,” a Clinton insider told Vanity Fair for a Wednesday feature on Abedin. “They reinforced all the bad habits.” Some of the criticism seems petty and, to be frank, catty. > [@](#): > > Abedin’s proximity to Clinton – and in turn the limelight – also created another issue, according to some observers. > > “She was enjoying the red carpet and enjoying the photo spreads much too much in my opinion,” one Clinton insider told Vanity Fair. “She enjoyed being a celebrity too much.” I thought Abedin was beloved among the Dems. Has this anything to do with ol’ Carlos Danger? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/2 "2016-12-19T18:39:28Z")
It’s ANYBODIES fault other than Hillary herself. Bad Uma et al should have countered Hillary and her bad instincts…because we know how much she listens to others. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/3 "2016-12-19T18:44:25Z")
Old Fox News gossip? The Evil Hillary has been defeated. Find a new project. Please–explain to us the Good Qualities of Your Leader. Start by enumerating the virtues of his appointments… ---
**Author:** ![BrerRobert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@BrerRobert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrerRobert)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/4 "2016-12-19T18:50:39Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Old Fox News gossip? The Evil Hillary has been defeated. Find a new project. > > Please–explain to us the Good Qualities of Your Leader. Start by enumerating the virtues of his appointments… Mattis has a depth of understanding of geopolitical realities, and a vast historical perspective of our nations strengths and limitations in relation to them, that make Obama and his team look like mediocre preschoolers (and Obama wasn’t even all that bad in this regard). ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/5 "2016-12-19T18:51:25Z")
Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote some long-form article about the Obama Presidency and the subsequent election of Trump over at the Atlantic, while it doesn’t spend much time on Hillary I found this paragraph to be a really good summation of Hillary’s weakness (nothing novel, just nicely succinct and does a good job comparing her to a more successful Democrat): > [@](#): > > Much would be made of blue-collar voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan who’d pulled the lever for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and then for Trump in 2016. Surely these voters disproved racism as an explanatory force. It’s still not clear how many individual voters actually flipped. But the underlying presumption—that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could be swapped in for each other—exhibited a problem. Clinton was a candidate who’d won one competitive political race in her life, whose political instincts were questioned by her own advisers, who took more than half a million dollars in speaking fees from an investment bank because it was “what they offered,” who proposed to bring back to the White House a former president dogged by allegations of rape and sexual harassment. Obama was a candidate who’d become only the third black senator in the modern era; who’d twice been elected president, each time flipping red and purple states; who’d run one of the most scandal-free administrations in recent memory. Imagine an African American facsimile of Hillary Clinton: She would never be the nominee of a major political party and likely would not be in national politics at all. [Link](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/) to full article for reference purposes. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/6 "2016-12-19T19:14:49Z")
for historical reference > [@aldiboronti](#): > > [Clinton advisers point fingers at Huma Abedin, inner circle for loss](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/clinton-advisers-point-fingers-at-huma-abedin-inner-circle-for-loss.html) > Some of the criticism seems petty and, to be frank, catty. > I thought Abedin was beloved among the Dems. Has this anything to do with ol’ Carlos Danger? > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Old Fox News gossip? The Evil Hillary has been defeated. Find a new project. > > Please–explain to us the Good Qualities of Your Leader. Start by enumerating the virtues of his appointments… You seem to have misspelled Huma “Mrs. Weiner” Abedin. 🙂 _Top Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin has told people she is unsure how her emails could have ended up on a device she viewed as her husband’s computer, the seizure of which has reignited the Clinton email investigation, according to a person familiar with the investigation and civil litigation over the matter._ [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-aide-huma-abedin-has-told-people-she-doesnt-know-how-her-emails-wound-up-on-her-husbands-computer/2016/10/29/1d30c2b8-9e15-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5\_story.html?utm\_term=.4d1bfc9cff18](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-aide-huma-abedin-has-told-people-she-doesnt-know-how-her-emails-wound-up-on-her-husbands-computer/2016/10/29/1d30c2b8-9e15-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?utm_term=.4d1bfc9cff18) Der Weiner’s PC contained Hillary emails sent to Huma. The emails made Hillary look even worse. Bad Huma. Maybe Huma wanted a safe place to stash what she considered to be her little insurance policy. You know, just in case her job/life took an unexpected turn for the worse. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/7 "2016-12-19T19:22:09Z")
Oh, good, you know which emails on the Dick Pic computer were relevant to the FBI’s investigation! Good, send those to Mr Comey, he still doesn’t. Maybe it has to do with all of those millions of illegal votes Hillary got! You know, in the “rigged” election. Send those to Il Douche, there are still cushy jobs to be had. (Get your pay up-front). ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/8 "2016-12-19T19:29:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Maybe Huma wanted a safe place to stash what she considered to be her little insurance policy. You know, just in case her job/life took an unexpected turn for the worse. Huma may be lucky and not know it. The Clintons have this history of getting the legal shit and sucking other seemingly well intentioned people into the fray. Hillary’s narrow loss may be what saved Huma from a legal quagmire sometime down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/9 "2016-12-19T19:33:33Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > [Clinton advisers point fingers at Huma Abedin, inner circle for loss](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/clinton-advisers-point-fingers-at-huma-abedin-inner-circle-for-loss.html) > > Some of the criticism seems petty and, to be frank, catty. > > I thought Abedin was beloved among the Dems. Has this anything to do with ol’ Carlos Danger? This is par for the course among every losing Presidential election campaign team. They descend into finger pointing(this time with added finger pointing towards Russia). Assume you are a high level strategist on the Clinton team; it’s far better for your future job prospects to blame someone else for Clinton’s loss rather than accept any blame yourself. This has happened every losing campaign I can remember, it will happen every future losing campaign until the downfall of the republic. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/10 "2016-12-19T19:34:50Z")
> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#): > > …until the downfall of the republic. About three weeks. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/11 "2016-12-19T20:15:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > About three weeks. At least four and a half. He’s got to get inaugurated first. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/12 "2016-12-19T20:16:16Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Has this anything to do with ol’ Carlos Danger? “No anchovies? You’ve got the wrong man.” ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/13 "2016-12-19T20:28:01Z")
Ultimately the blame falls squarely on Hillary but part of her incompetence does lie in drawing other incompetent people in her circle though I don’t know enough about Abedin to know if she is one of them. I did have misgivings about Jennifer Palmieri though. I don’t know if anyone remembers but she did become half-famous in the blogosphere in 2008 for a very ham-handed intervention on Matt Yglesias’s blog. I started a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=498651)about it and the first comment by **hawthorne** was: > [@](#): > > Hilarious. Palmieri’s post is perfect in its ineptness. Her work product is likely to transition out of politics going forward. Unfortunately his prediction turned out to be false. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/14 "2016-12-19T21:18:34Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Huma may be lucky and not know it. The Clintons have this history of getting the legal shit and sucking other seemingly well intentioned people into the fray. > > Hillary’s narrow loss may be what saved Huma from a legal quagmire sometime down the road. Mrs Weiner may have remembered that ol’ Clinton advice about saving the blue dress, or saving the stained dress, or beware of dick trickle in the oval office. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/15 "2016-12-20T02:47:43Z")
Abedin was blamed for drawing negative attention to the campaign because she had a bad husband. Yeah, I know, these are some dumb as rocks people. No wonder they lost. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/16 "2016-12-20T06:35:17Z")
First off, you make up the shit about hating on her, then you smugly deride us for it. Who got this memo? You know, the guys who are actually supposed to be doing it? Seen anybody here ragging on her? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/17 "2016-12-20T07:47:49Z")
Oh, so it was Fox News! Sorry about that, didn’t realize that you had such a universally respected source. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/18 "2016-12-20T08:13:11Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Some of the criticism seems petty and, to be frank, catty. It’s the post-election blame game. _Of course_ it’s petty and catty. After 2008, McCain staffers leaked practically a whole book’s worth of petty and catty stuff about Sarah Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/19 "2016-12-20T13:18:19Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > It’s the post-election blame game. _Of course_ it’s petty and catty. After 2008, McCain staffers leaked practically a whole book’s worth of petty and catty stuff about Sarah Palin. To be fair, Palin was a mess. One good thing we’ll get out of this election is the behind-the-scenes books about Trump. I bet they’ll be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164/20 "2016-12-20T13:38:54Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > To be fair, Palin was a mess. Well yes. McCain on his own, for all his faults, appeared to be a competent choice for President. Sarah Palin was incapable of answering the question “How was your day, Governor?” without committing the verbal equivalent of setting herself on fire, and the thought of her becoming president if McCain croaked in office scared a lot of people off (myself included). Back on topic: post-mortem finger-pointing is indeed par for the course. Sometimes it’s warranted, sometimes it isn’t. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-the-huma-abedin-hate-among-hillarys-team/775164.md?page=2)