# What's up with this Wiki page?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 3, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364 "2011-03-03T16:01:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/1 "2011-03-03T16:01:04Z")

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Why isn’t this Wiki page formatted normally?

> **[Dago Red](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dago_Red)**
>
> Dago Red is a North American P-51 Mustang (44-74996), restored as a competitive air racer by Frank Taylor in 1981. Dago Red holds several world records, including the 15 km (517.323 mph) set in 1983. Frank Taylor piloted the plane to most of its world records in the 1980s.
> General characteristics
> Performance

How hard would it be to put it into the normal format?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/2 "2011-03-03T16:24:19Z")

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I don’t understand. It looks much the same as pages on my watchlist.

Edited to add, perhaps a screenshot to show us what you’re seeing?

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/3 "2011-03-03T16:32:32Z")

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It looks like this to me, one long column, no wikipedia navigation bars, formatting, etc:

> [@](#):
>
> Dago Red  
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  
> Jump to: navigation, search  
> P-51D Mustang Dago Red
> 
> Dago Red is a P-51 Mustang (44-74996), restored as a competitive air racer by Frank Taylor in 1981. Dago Red holds several world records, including the 15 km (517.323 mph) set in 1983. The plane has recently been reacquired by Frank Taylor, who piloted the plane to most of its world records in the 1980s. Frank Taylor is currently preparing Dago Red to break the world record in the 3 km, in mid-2010.  
> Contents
> 
> ```
> * 1 Awards
> * 2 Specifications
> * 3 See also
> * 4 External links
> 
> ```
> 
> [edit] Awards  
> (etc etc)
> 
> [edit] External links
> 
> ```
> * Dago Red
> * Reno Air Racing Association
> * P-51 Mustang Survivors
> 
> ```
> 
> Retrieved from “[Dago Red - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dago_Red)”  
> Categories: Racing aircraft  
> Hidden categories: Aircraft without specifications  
> Personal tools
> 
> ```
> * Log in / create account
> 
> ```
> 
> Namespaces
> 
> ```
> * Article
> * Discussion
> 
> ```
> 
> Variants
> 
> Views
> 
> ```
> * Read
> * Edit
> * View history
> 
> ```
> 
> Actions
> 
> Search  
> Search  
> Navigation
> 
> ```
> * Main page
> * Contents
> * Featured content
> * Current events
> * Random article
> * Donate to Wikipedia
> 
> ```
> 
> Interaction
> 
> ```
> * Help
> * About Wikipedia
> * Community portal
> * Recent changes
> * Contact Wikipedia
> 
> ```
> 
> Toolbox
> 
> ```
> * What links here
> * Related changes
> * Upload file
> * Special pages
> * Permanent link
> * Cite this page
> 
> ```
> 
> Print/export
> 
> ```
> * Create a book
> * Download as PDF
> * Printable version
> 
> * This page was last modified on 12 October 2010 at 18:35.
> * Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. See Terms of Use for details.
> Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization.
> * Contact us
> 
> * Privacy policy
> * About Wikipedia
> * Disclaimers
> 
> * Powered by MediaWiki
> * Wikimedia Foundation
> 
> ```

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/4 "2011-03-03T16:37:07Z")

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I have had pages load like that, but they are back in “normal” format when I reload the page. The OP page is staying like that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/5 "2011-03-03T16:40:33Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
>
> Edited to add, perhaps a screenshot to show us what you’re seeing?

[Screenshot](http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/llaaksonen/DagoRedWiki.png), which shows what **Shmendrik** describes.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/6 "2011-03-03T16:42:14Z")

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Weird. I get the navigation bars and the other stuff.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/7 "2011-03-03T16:44:19Z")

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I cropped to just show the page. Above that is just my menu bar and Safari navigation section.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/8 "2011-03-03T17:00:07Z")

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Maybe the CSS style sheet failed to load.

(It looks normal to me.)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/9 "2011-03-03T17:01:13Z")

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It’s back to normal now.

That was weird.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/10 "2011-03-03T17:03:16Z")

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^same here.

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**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/11 "2011-03-03T17:07:43Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
>
> Maybe the CSS style sheet failed to load.
> 
> (It looks normal to me.)

I’d go with this. Happens to the odd site on occasion. Nothing really one could do about it except sacrifice another virgin to the gods of the Internet to appease them to make the CSS page load again.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/12 "2011-03-03T18:00:09Z")

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It looks messed up to me in Firefox.

There are about 50 Javascript errors showing up in Error Console for me, with one of the end results being that the CSS is not being found/used. Hence the display issue.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/13 "2011-03-03T18:09:44Z")

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Looks OK to me.

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**Author:** ![CT\_Damsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CT\_Damsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CT_Damsel)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/14 "2011-03-03T18:22:49Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
>
> [Screenshot](http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/llaaksonen/DagoRedWiki.png), which shows what **Shmendrik** describes.

Me too

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**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/15 "2011-03-03T18:47:30Z")

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Still off for me (Pacific NW), I’m curious if it is a regional thing depending on the location of the database being accessed?

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/16 "2011-03-03T19:02:49Z")

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I just tried again and got the messed up version (whereas it was normal for me before).

A couple of reloads brought it back to normal though. - In fact I now find I can virtually alternate versions by reloading.

I still think it has to do with the style sheet failing to load, but I don’t understand why this is the only Wikipedia page that seems to be doing this.

I also just discovered that what seems to be [the original version of the page](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dago_Red&oldid=120918379) was a redirect to the entry for Father Mulcahy. 😕😕😕

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/17 "2011-03-03T19:49:56Z")

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The reason for the redirect is that in the novel and original film Dago Red was a nickname for Father Mulcahy.

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**Author:** ![Heyoka13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Heyoka13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heyoka13)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/18 "2011-03-03T19:57:58Z")

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IIRC, when [Space.com](http://Space.com) forum was running Pluck, I would get misformatted pages all the time. As the months went past, more and more posters started seeing the problem. No one in [Space.com](http://Space.com) IT ever said so, but I assumed I had the worst internet connection and so I saw the problem first, as the [Space.com](http://Space.com) message board software deteriorated with numerous patches to correct other problems, the original problem worsened so that more and more posters saw the problem too. I had to photograph my monitor and post the photos to show what I was getting, for some odd reason, screen saves would fix the format problem, and it looked like I was making up problems as the screen saves were fine.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/20 "2011-03-03T20:00:06Z")

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It is the CSS. In IE it loads fine for me, but in K-Meleon (which is Mozilla based like Firefox is) the CSS fails to load.

Basically IE is able to compensate for the scripting error while Mozilla based browsers don’t compensate for it.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-this-wiki-page/573364/21 "2011-03-03T20:28:11Z")

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The script [http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/jquery.min.js?283-19](http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/jquery.min.js?283-19) returns:

```auto

The requested URL /skins-1.5/common/jquery.min.js was not found on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found
error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

```

Causing failure down the line. With other JS and with CSS.

If you compare the code on that page to the code on other pages, it’s just coming from a different server, on which there is an error. And different people might get it from different servers where there are not errors.

Shit happens.

ETA: It’s not an IE-vs- other browsers thing. The CSS fails to load in my IE 8 as well as Firefox.

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