# What's up with ties?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-ties/66730
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 28, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-ties/66730 "2001-05-28T02:15:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@Astroman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroman)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-ties/66730/1 "2001-05-28T02:15:59Z")
To me, the tie seems to be one of the most useless and somewhat ridiculous articles of men’s clothing. Is the tie of today a vestigial scarf that time forgot? Does anybody know its origins?
Can somebody help me out here?
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### Author:  [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2001, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-ties/66730/2 "2001-05-28T09:43:18Z")
[17th century Croation soldiers](http://www.thetie.com/history.htm) were the first to wear something like a neck tie. It was primarily used to wipe sweat from the forehead, but evolved into a fashion statement because of the French. Isn’t that lovely? You can _always_ blame the French.
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### Author:  [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2001, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-ties/66730/3 "2001-05-28T10:10:54Z")
Well damn. [The thread was double-posted.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=72260) Still, my answer is the most correct one, so this thread can be closed. 🙂