# What's up with Trump's presidential seal? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592 "2019-07-25T04:17:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/21 "2019-07-25T19:38:40Z")
The presentation wasn’t prepared by the White House. It was prepared by Turning Point USA, at an event they sponsored and Trump was speaking at. Still stupid for the White House not to review the presentation that was being used when POTUS was speaking in front of. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/22 "2019-07-25T20:21:14Z")
Here is a clearer look at the ersatz seal: > **[r/PoliticalHumor - Trump's Presidential Seal](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/chm97e/trumps_presidential_seal/)** > > 22,865 votes and 1,037 comments so far on Reddit ETA: the eagle isn’t even carrying the regulation number of clubs. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/23 "2019-07-25T20:21:49Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Here is a clearer look at the ersatz seal: > > [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/chm97e/trumps_presidential_seal/) > > ETA: the eagle isn’t even carrying the regulation number of clubs. Sad! 😃 Love it! This disrespect is very encouraging. Hope to see more of it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/24 "2019-07-25T20:22:37Z")
Worse public screw-ups have happened. > **[The Time Florida Accidentally Honored James Earl Ray—Instead of Jones—on MLK Day](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/64189/time-florida-accidentally-honored-james-earl-ray-instead-jones-mlk-day)** > > What should have been a lovely tribute ended up being a horrific homage. And the White House has its share of blunders. > **[Donald Trump used a noticeably out-of-date photo to commemorate 9/11. Ugh.](https://mashable.com/article/trump-9-11-wrong-picture-tweet)** > > Another error at the worst possible moment I accept the premise that this was all just from a dumb mistake. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/25 "2019-07-25T20:36:12Z")
Do we know if this parody seal was out there already, and popular enough that someone doing a Google image search for the real thing would come across it? ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/26 "2019-07-25T20:36:40Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I don’t see why it should. The guy’s name was Sméagol. The diacritical ought to preclude the “SMEE-gol” pronunciation right off the bat. Argue that with [Tolkien](https://youtu.be/xBQJTaMMMhI?t=95) 😛 ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/27 "2019-07-25T20:37:09Z")
For pity’s sake, you could have put it up twenty minutes earlier and had some guy with a laser pointer describe in one-syllable words how each element symbolized endless feckless golfing, nepotism in the service of incompetence and self-enrichment, deference to post-Soviet Kremlin leadership, and the need to discard American unity in the face of attack. The drooling dimwits would still have cheered the drooling dimwit-in-chief decrying American values and citizens in front of them. Much like Republican congressmen heard (hardly for the first time) about a plot by a foreign adversary to disrupt and exert control over a democratic presidential election, and maybe two even managed to choke out the response “I’d like to know more about this,” even with the preface “Sounds unlikely, but…” (which didn’t happen), the whole rotten crowd was primed to choose the foreign enemy they don’t know over the neighbor they’ve been taught to hate. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/28 "2019-07-25T20:56:21Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [Turning Point USA aide fired for projecting fake presidential seal with Russian symbol behind Trump](https://theweek.com/speedreads/854996/turning-point-usa-aide-fired-projecting-fake-presidential-seal-russian-symbol-behind-trump) “Looks like you blew a seal.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/29 "2019-07-25T20:59:56Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “Looks like you blew a seal.” No, that’s ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/30 "2019-07-25T21:09:26Z")
What is the cluster of green whatever in the other claw? Maui Wowee? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/31 "2019-07-25T21:11:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What is the cluster of green whatever in the other claw? Maui Wowee? Cash. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/32 "2019-07-25T21:45:20Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Do we know if this parody seal was out there already, and popular enough that someone doing a Google image search for the real thing would come across it? It sounds like bullshit to me. Reverse image searching, googling “presidential seal” with results limited to before Tuesday – I can’t find anything like that. And reverse image searching the doctored seal itself, I haven’t had any better luck than link to recent news stories. This does not appear, at least at first pass, to be some sort of widespread meme a harried last-minute image Googler came upon. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/33 "2019-07-25T22:09:25Z")
Oh hell no; this was deliberate. And fantastic. Like, Andy-Kaufman-level-fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/34 "2019-07-25T22:18:59Z")
[Gizmodo](https://gizmodo.com/trump-appears-in-front-of-photoshopped-presidential-sea-1836687973) > [@](#): > > It’s unclear who first created the photoshopped image, but it appears on free image sites like Free PNG Library and other Clip Art hosting pages. **Someone is even selling the doctored logo on t-shirts and iPhone cases at the print-on-demand service Inktale**. The user who sells those items, OneTermDonnie, also sells bumper stickers that read “Chump” made to look like the Trump logo. There’s nothing on the page to indicate when the image was added. [OneTermDonnie](https://inktale.com/onetermdonnie) ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/35 "2019-07-25T22:40:47Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “Looks like you blew a seal.” Just fix the damn thing and leave my private life out of it, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/36 "2019-07-25T22:59:43Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > It sounds like bullshit to me. Reverse image searching, googling “presidential seal” with results limited to before Tuesday – I can’t find anything like that. And reverse image searching the doctored seal itself, I haven’t had any better luck than link to recent news stories. This does not appear, at least at first pass, to be some sort of widespread meme a harried last-minute image Googler came upon. That is exactly what they are claiming it was… and someone got fired for it. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/trump-russia-presidential-seal-tpusa-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/trump-russia-presidential-seal-tpusa-trnd/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/37 "2019-07-25T23:11:41Z")
Turning Points USA: The future of conservatism, y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/38 "2019-07-25T23:13:11Z")
Stupid? Check. Inattentive? Check. Vindictive? Check. Aye; that’s totally conservatism today. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/39 "2019-07-25T23:16:07Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > That is exactly what they are claiming it was… and someone got fired for it. I realize that. I think it’s bullshit. (Not that someone got fired for it… they should have. But it’s unlikely – to me – that it was just a random Google search.) ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592/40 "2019-07-25T23:18:54Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I realize that. I think it’s bullshit. Are you saying it is “Fake News?” (I agree but that is their story and they are sticking to it… complete with the sacrificial lamb.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-trumps-presidential-seal/837592.md?page=3)