# What's up with X-Men Evolution? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 21, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583 "2003-05-21T16:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/241 "2003-07-05T13:50:11Z")
Also, Cap, Spidey, and Iron man are all psychlologically distanced from the rest of the population by their secret identities while the FF is distanced by being celebrities so the public is more tolerant of them since it’s unliklely any of them will be coming to dinner. Mutants on the other hand could be a friend, neighbor, familly member, or even you so it’s an in-your-face problem that might hurt you or your loved ones so it scares people on a personal level rather than an abstract one. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/242 "2003-07-05T16:23:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Balance \* > > > [@](#): > > > > _originally posted by tracer_ > > “Even if you can turn yourself into molten lava and hurl firebolts at your enemies, you’ll still take them out faster with a flying karate kick.” :rolleyes: > > **Yes, and as a bonus, you can leave them with fatal burns or at least terrible scars with the firebolts. Has it occurred to you that Amara might not want to kill anyone?** This last Thursday night’s episode, “Shadow Dance,” gave me a little more insight into why she did this. Wolverine went into an alternate, hellish dimension with Nightcrawler, and the two of them were attacked by vicious monsters that resembled Tyrannosaurus Rexes. Yet, despite the obvious threat these beasts posed, and despite the number of times Wolverine waved his claws around, _he never actually slashed any of the beasts with his claws_. I’m betting that, since this is an American-made cartoon show aimed at kids, they are operating under a strict “no deaths or permanent injuries” rule. (Sorta like how nobody ever got shot in _G.I. Joe_.) ---
**Author:** ![king\_of\_spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7cd45c/32.png) [@king\_of\_spain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/king_of_spain)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/243 "2003-07-07T02:55:44Z")
After tonight’s episode: man, what is up with Rahne’s weird breathy high-pitched voice? Is that really just their sad attempt at a Scottish accent? ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/244 "2003-07-07T03:29:11Z")
> [@](#): > > After tonight’s episode: man, what is up with Rahne’s weird breathy high-pitched voice? Is that really just their sad attempt at a Scottish accent? I wondered that myself. It sounds horrible. I also noticed that Kitty pronounced her name as “Ronnie” when I’m certain I’d heard Jamie pronounce it “Rain” before. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/245 "2003-07-07T04:50:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by shy guy \* > \*\*I also noticed that Kitty pronounced her name as “Ronnie” when I’m certain I’d heard Jamie pronounce it “Rain” before. \*\* It’s definitely ‘Rain’ - that’s a source of a lot of puns about her name in the comics. ---
**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/246 "2003-07-07T07:37:50Z")
They went just a tad overboard trying to make Rahne cute with that Pippi Longstocking-ish hairstyle. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/247 "2003-07-07T11:58:33Z")
> [@](#): > > What’s Nick Fury, then? Chopped liver? Fury isn’t exactly a superhero - most of the time he leads a covert ops organization. In any case, he’s a background character. > [@](#): > > Of course, there have been mutants around for a while, like Apocalypse, but he’s so old people could just place his stuff under the heading of “myth”. It would be interesting to find out who locked him up though. One question: Has Apocalypse ever had mental powers? Xavier would have taken out Mesmero with no effort, so I assume the Big A was backing him up. Either that, or A gave him an upgrade. Well, he didn’t have before. However, the Big A hadn’t been locked up behind a rock wall in Tibet for god-alone-knows how long, either. He was certainly very resistant to such things. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/248 "2003-07-07T17:52:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by king of spain \* > \*\*After tonight’s episode: man, what is up with Rahne’s weird breathy high-pitched voice? Is that really just their sad attempt at a Scottish accent? \*\* _shrug_ It’s not surprising, considering the hatchet job they did with Rogue’s southern accent. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/249 "2003-07-07T18:38:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by shy guy \* > \*\* > I also noticed that Kitty pronounced her name as “Ronnie” when I’m certain I’d heard Jamie pronounce it “Rain” before. \*\* I was never sure about this myself. The languages of the British Isles are spelled very strangely when using the Latin alphabet. Gwynedd=Gwyneth. My personal favorite was a poet who did a reading when I attended college. The book cover said Micheal O’Sidheal. He was introduced as Meehawl O’shool. ``` But, a story arc involving yet another alternate earth made it clear. Their, the lass is tyrant ruler. The arc was titled Rahne Of Terror. So as sher as Saint Patrick drove the Emerald isle, the lasses name is rain. Say it loik the weather ye see so often in these parts. ``` ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/250 "2003-07-07T19:31:55Z")
At least her name isn’t Gaelic. Then it would be spelled “Cwnann Strcwvrccquaa” but pronounced “Throat-warbler mangrove.” ---
**Author:** ![king\_of\_spain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7cd45c/32.png) [@king\_of\_spain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/king_of_spain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/251 "2003-07-08T01:19:34Z")
Actually, as a southerner I was very pleasantly surprised by Rogue’s accent in Evolution. It’s not perfect but it’s probably the best fake southern accent I’ve ever heard on tv. (That’s not really saying a whole lot, of course, as tv southern accents are almost uniformly dreadful.) Certainly it’s so much better than Rogue’s accent in the 1990’s X-Men cartoon that there’s just no comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/252 "2003-07-08T02:09:34Z")
I know everyone heard the “Mulder” reference in “Retreat”, but (not being an X-Phile) I didn’t notice on first hearing that the snippet of music when the scene transitions to Beast was a variation on the “X-Files” theme. I assume it wasn’t the actual theme, given the lack of acknowledments in the credits, but it’s very similar. A cute touch. As for Rahne’s name, I’ve heard it pronounced [rayn], [rah nay], and [ray nay] by various people who share it, but [rayn] seems to be the standard. (Why, yes, I _do_ know a lot of people with odd names. Why do you ask?) I suppose Kitty’s pronunciation could be deliberate–a teasing nickname that stuck, perhaps. She was being awfully clever in this episode. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/253 "2003-07-08T02:42:41Z")
That might not have been the real _X-Files_ theme playing in the background, but you do have to admit, they captured the real McCoy! (I wonder how many “Doctor McCoy” jokes Hank gets?) ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/254 "2003-07-09T04:58:40Z")
I am no longer allowed to like Magma. I just can’t get behind someone who says she hates the metric system. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/255 "2003-07-09T11:31:53Z")
Xavier was made to look like a bit of an ass in that one, they are just high school kids after all. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Siegfried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siegfried)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/256 "2003-07-09T12:35:47Z")
And you’ll find out why tonight, **Sock Munkey**. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/257 "2003-07-09T17:36:05Z")
Yes. Now last night was a good example of plot writing. Things start to make sense and fit together, and they haven’t mis-used the “Magical Cerebro CD” bit too much. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/258 "2003-07-11T20:15:59Z")
Woo! Cyke finally gets fed up with Mystique’s stupid game of “only I know where the real Xavier is” and lets Trask’s anti-mutant goons capture her. (Speaking of “capture”, it just didn’t seem right for ol’ Nick Tough-as-nails Fury to say “If I’d wanted to capture you, you’d be captured.” I’ll bet the scriptwriter originally wanted to say “kill” there, not “capture.” I saw this kind of blind search-and-replace of “capture” for “kill” in the U.S. release of the Vehicle Team Voltron, too, when rioting rebels were storming the Druel H.Q. and screaming “Capture the president! Capture the presient!”. I’ll betcha dollars to donut-holes it wasn’t “capture” they were saying in the original Japanese.) ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/259 "2003-07-12T02:17:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*I saw this kind of blind search-and-replace of “capture” for “kill” in the U.S. release of the Vehicle Team Voltron, too, when rioting rebels were storming the Druel H.Q. and screaming “Capture the president! Capture the presient!”. I’ll betcha dollars to donut-holes it wasn’t “capture” they were saying in the original Japanese.) \*\* Heck, in the original Japanese the vehicle and lion shows are unrelated. Sure the lion bots of Hiyakujo Go Lion form a giant robot. And the vehicles of(I don’t remember) also form a giant robot. But they only became Voltron1 and Voltron2 in the American versions. ---
**Author:** ![Sock\_Munkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Sock\_Munkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sock_Munkey)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583/260 "2003-07-12T12:37:44Z")
At least they left some of the blood in both Voltron series. As for Cyke, apparently his new power is the ability to transform his balls into solid brass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-up-with-x-men-evolution/176583.md?page=14)