# What's white on the outside and brown on the inside?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 19, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052 "2019-01-19T15:37:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/21 "2019-01-20T06:46:26Z")

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#1. I make a crinkle cookie that’s a brownie like thing with powdered sugar on the outside.  
#2 chicken shit.  
#3. An Albino with a dark soul.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/22 "2019-01-20T07:17:28Z")

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A Zero candy bar — [Zero Candy Bar White Fudge Caramel Peanuts Almond Nougat - 24 Bars 1.85oz 52g for sale online | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/p/Zero-Candy-Bar-White-Fudge-Caramel-Peanuts-Almond-Nougat-24-Bars-1-85oz-52g/1200345126)

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**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/23 "2019-01-20T11:21:22Z")

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Burrito

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**Author:** ![Santelia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Santelia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santelia)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/24 "2019-01-20T11:45:37Z")

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A not particularly appetising looking Lasagne?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/25 "2019-01-20T15:06:17Z")

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I like golf ball, Marmite sandwich and burrito.😛 I’ll probably stick with Marmite sandwich since I’m a Marmite fan. Honorable mention to “wigger” but what I have in mind is Filipino brown, not African brown.

Thanks to all for participating.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/26 "2019-01-20T15:13:54Z")

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The (very good) author Mat Johnson used the word Inconegro, a black guy who looks white (thus hearing a lot of racist shit because people think he’s safe). If that’s what you mean, it’s a great coinage. If you mean an actual white person of European ancestry who “feels” black, I think Ali G or Rachel Dolezal are the right term, neither would used in a flattering way.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/27 "2019-01-20T15:15:06Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> I like golf ball, Marmite sandwich and burrito.😛 I’ll probably stick with Marmite sandwich since I’m a Marmite fan. Honorable mention to “wigger” but what I have in mind is Filipino brown, not African brown.
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> Thanks to all for participating.

I’m not surprised you don’t want to be a Zero. 😃

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/28 "2019-01-20T21:16:01Z")

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> [@WernhamHogg](#):
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> If you mean an actual white person of European ancestry who “feels” black, I think Ali G or Rachel Dolezal are the right term, neither would used in a flattering way.

Or a J Rock if there are any Trailer Park Boys in the audience.

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/29 "2019-01-21T05:49:46Z")

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> [@vperry1](#):
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> The little heap of snow that covered my dog’s last dump.

Oh! There’s something poetic about that. 😃 I hope your dog is alive and well and it was not a snow memorial for dog’s last ever dump.

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/30 "2019-01-21T13:23:02Z")

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> [@Mr.Duality](#):
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> A Native American whose behavior is too white is sometimes called an apple- red on the outside and white on the inside, get it? A black person who behaves like a white person is sometimes referred to as an oreo- black on the outside and white on the inside.

Not a single WTF comment? How the heck can someone’s behavior be “too white”? Who made up a “white behavior” check list, and what group of people did they base it on? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/31 "2019-01-21T13:48:58Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> Not a single WTF comment?

Here’s one. WTF?

Anything else I’d say runs the risk of threadshitting or junior modding, so I’ll leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/32 "2019-01-21T13:52:41Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> Not a single WTF comment? How the heck can someone’s behavior be “too white”? Who made up a “white behavior” check list, and what group of people did they base it on? :dubious:

Well, if you speak proper English, don’t live on the Rez or in the Hood, and don’t dress/eat/live day to day steeped in your culture: you might be an Apple or an Oreo.

I’m almost 50 and heard the former at a very young age. I guess every group has to have “them” so as to have someone to be superior to.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/33 "2019-01-21T16:05:55Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I’m not surprised you don’t want to be a Zero. 😃

I just want to sit and contemplate the subtle difference between a zero and nothing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/34 "2019-01-21T17:21:04Z")

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White on the outside and brown on the inside? An overcooked baked potato that fell into the ashes, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-white-on-the-outside-and-brown-on-the-inside/828052/35 "2019-01-21T21:28:25Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> Not a single WTF comment? How the heck can someone’s behavior be “too white”? Who made up a “white behavior” check list, and what group of people did they base it on? :dubious:

I’ll bite. Bear in mind that this is used as a criticism, and sin is usually in the eye of the beholder.

“Too white” means that the person who is being criticized is acting in a way that is, at best, more like white culture than the culture of the ethnicity they belong too. At worst, they’re throwing their fellows under the bus to get brownie points from the people in power.

Michael Jackson was accused in his time of being an oreo because the plastic surgery he had to make his face look more caucasian. Unfair, IMO, because he was raised in an environment that said that was the only acceptable way to look. That’s the only specific use of the term “oreo” I can remember, but I have heard it in referring to others in the past, just can’t remember specifics.

In light of my interpretation of the terms, I’d guess that the closest common phrase would be “going native”

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