# What's with all the mini-fedoras these days?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 18, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165 "2010-07-18T22:22:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/21 "2010-07-19T11:54:46Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I thought I covered that. ?!?

Just a little deconstruction, that’s all. I’m a postmodernist; it’s what I do.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/22 "2010-07-19T14:21:30Z")

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Seems to me they were last worn by Old Men who drove large cars very slowly in the fast lane. We grew up calling them “Go Faster!” hats. They were useful because you could predict the actions of other cars simply by the silhouette of the driver. Guess the oldsters are finally dying off and their grand kids are swiping their hats for laughs.

That’s the explanation in my world.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/23 "2010-07-19T14:57:13Z")

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I used to bitch about other people’s style, too. Then I graduated high school. It’s in fashion- what’s not to get? I bet if you charted the age of posters on the X axis and their distain for the trend on the Y axis, you’d get a positive slope.

Yes, yes, you don’t like what the kids are doing these days. You’re old. We get it. Move along.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/24 "2010-07-19T15:02:42Z")

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I like hats. That hat looks neat. Is there a way I can wear that hat without being a douche? ☹

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/25 "2010-07-19T15:02:52Z")

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My first thought was of Matt Bomer as con-man Neal Caffrey in the tv series White Collar. He’s bringing the old school cool clothing back in style.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/26 "2010-07-19T15:03:59Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> I used to bitch about other people’s style, too. Then I graduated high school. It’s in fashion- what’s not to get? I bet if you charted the age of posters on the X axis and their distain for the trend on the Y axis, you’d get a positive slope.

I bet if you held a level to your forehead you’d get an even more dramatic slope, but let’s not get so technical that we lose the home viewers.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/27 "2010-07-19T15:13:24Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Doesn’t “trendy” mean changing your style during and because of a trend?

A friend of mine told me about a scene in a movie. Two guys are on a street, talking about ‘Punk’ or something. One guy destroys some property. (It could have been that he through a trash can through a window, or he destroyed a parking meter, or something – I don’t remember.) He says, ‘That’s Punk.’ So the other guy does the same thing and says that he’s Punk too. The first guy says something to the effect of, ‘When I did it, it was Punk. You’re just being trendy.’

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/28 "2010-07-19T15:16:49Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> It’s to help us identify douchey kids. I call them douchehats.

Nah, “douchehats” are the [wool ski caps](http://blog.mlive.com/runningwithneedles/2007/11/medium_skicap.jpg) that the slacker-alt-skateboard dudes wear, even when it’s 90 degrees outside, and probably get washed twice a year, if that.

Fedoras are just a current fashion trend, and not an awful one. Better than bell-bottoms, white vests and shiny shirts, anyway…

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/29 "2010-07-19T15:20:16Z")

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Yeah, I’d call that a kind of trilby, not a fedora. I think this all began with the Rat Pack nostalgia in the 1990s – _Swingers_ and all that.

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**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/30 "2010-07-19T15:20:58Z")

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I was at an outdoor music fest on the weekend, and thought how much BETTER they looked than the ubiquitous ball cap. Although I think the “best” hat related sighting was the number of shaved bald heads that came out in the evening with the ball cap tan/burn spot. Now that was douchy looking!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/31 "2010-07-19T15:24:04Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I bet if you held a level to your forehead you’d get an even more dramatic slope, but let’s not get so technical that we lose the home viewers.

This was probably a bit too insultish for the forum, which is (as I just noticed) not the Pit. Apologies.

> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> I like hats. That hat looks neat. Is there a way I can wear that hat without being a douche? ☹

Yes. Construct a time machine.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/32 "2010-07-19T15:33:00Z")

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It’s a way to wear a no-fuss hat that doesn’t look as boorish (or at least overly casual) as a baseball cap.

I also think they tend to look good, especially on balding men.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/33 "2010-07-19T15:45:18Z")

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The guy who works at the store next to mine has a collection of these hats that he wears all day, perched on the back of his head. My favorite is the hot pink one. It seems to be his favorite, too.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/34 "2010-07-19T17:57:47Z")

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You don’t _have_ to be a hipster douche to wear one, but if you choose to wear one, then you must be prepared to be identified as a hipster douche.

If you want to avoid being identified as a hipster douche, as yourself one question: Is this accessory that I’m thinking about wearing been work by Ryan in the past two seasons of _The Office_? If so, don’t wear it.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/35 "2010-07-19T18:03:13Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Nah, “douchehats” are the [wool ski caps](http://blog.mlive.com/runningwithneedles/2007/11/medium_skicap.jpg) that the slacker-alt-skateboard dudes wear, even when it’s 90 degrees outside, and probably get washed twice a year, if that.\<snip\>

I must regretfully inform you that those are Idiot Toques.

Yeah, I’m old - so what?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/36 "2010-07-19T18:09:06Z")

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Just so long as [flat caps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap) don’t get associated with hipster douches, I’m happy.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/37 "2010-07-19T18:21:36Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Just so long as [flat caps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap) don’t get associated with hipster douches, I’m happy.

Sorry.  
I usually don’t wear hats but was advised to wear one when I’ll visit a warm city soon. I got something like this: [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511VJTJHDML.\_AA280\_.jpg](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511VJTJHDML._AA280_.jpg)

Douchy-looking?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/38 "2010-07-19T18:40:27Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Just so long as [flat caps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap) don’t get associated with hipster douches, I’m happy.

As long as you don’t wear it backwards you should be ok.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/39 "2010-07-19T18:43:05Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> As long as you don’t wear it backwards you should be ok.

Hey, if it’s good enough for Sam Jackson, it’s good enough for me.

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-all-the-mini-fedoras-these-days/547165/40 "2010-07-19T19:04:18Z")

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I suppose some small percentage of the folks sporting “mini-fedoras” of late could be fans of David Zayas’ character on Dexter. (Angel Batista)

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