# What's With Climbing Mt. Everest? (Dust-up Near Summit)

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 29, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024 "2013-04-29T17:20:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/1 "2013-04-29T17:20:38Z")

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Link:[Mount Everest brawl: UK photographer Jonathan Griffith among climbers attacked by Sherpas | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316109/Jonathan-Griffith-British-photographer-injured-terrifying-fight-climbers-Sherpas-close-peak-Mount-Everest.html)  
Ya can’t get away from this-now sherpa guides are fighting with climbers!  
I think the whole concept of climbing a mountain needs definition-we cannot be having rumbles over this.  
Ed Hillary would probably be disgusted-what has climbing sunk to?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/2 "2013-04-29T17:58:50Z")

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What’s your point Ralph? While climbers are generally a cooperative lot, there are plenty of past instances of climbers getting into conflicts all over the world, many where altitude wasn’t a factor. We know you hate the hoopla surrounding Everest, but for better or worse bad behavior isn’t exclusive to that mountain or to the current era.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/3 "2013-04-29T18:03:27Z")

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I couldn’t imagine risking my life and spending so much money just to climb a mountain that many before me already have.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/4 "2013-04-29T18:12:50Z")

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These kinds of incidents are not without [precedent](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2SJS6B1wQ).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/5 "2013-04-29T18:12:50Z")

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Maybe if we had helicopters to get to the top, this wouldn’t be an issue.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/6 "2013-04-29T18:30:25Z")

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Or a ski lift.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/7 "2013-04-29T18:53:36Z")

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It’s like the Sharks and the Jets. West Slide Story: the musical.

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/8 "2013-04-29T19:41:13Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Or a ski lift.

Or better yet, cable cars! Serving cheap american beer!! With big screen tvs playing the latest game!!!

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/9 "2013-04-29T21:57:23Z")

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> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> Or better yet, cable cars! Serving cheap american beer!! With big screen tvs playing the latest game!!!

In fact, forget the mountain!

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/10 "2013-04-29T22:57:55Z")

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You may know that Ueli Steck is one of the most famous and respected mountaineers in the world today. He’s particularly known for rapid solo, unroped ascents of severe routes. His [2008 climb of the north face of the Eiger](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxEtJoK0-jA), done in an astounding 2:48, was a landmark achievement.

Here’s a link to his website, where a [reasonably complete description of the incident](http://www.uelisteck.ch/en/news/news/354-medienmitteilung-29042013.html) is posted.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/11 "2013-04-29T23:37:06Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Maybe if we had helicopters to get to the top, this wouldn’t be an issue.

[Maybe it would.](http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0509/whats_new/helicopter_everest.html)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/12 "2013-04-30T01:49:16Z")

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I’m waiting for the first guy to parachute down on to the peak of Everest.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/13 "2013-04-30T18:16:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’m waiting for the first guy to parachute down on to the peak of Everest.

Could be a long wait, in view of the equipment + skills + conditioning needed to safely walk down from there.

(I suppose you could arrange to be met by Sherpas who’d take care of you.)

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/14 "2013-04-30T18:19:00Z")

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I’d be more impressed with the first person to lug 500lb of trash down off the mountain that the other climbers leave on Everest.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/15 "2013-05-01T00:02:43Z")

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> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> I’d be more impressed with the first person to lug 500lb of trash down off the mountain that the other climbers leave on Everest.

It’s been done many times.

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> **[Save Everest campaign removes 8 tons of waste - Gadling](https://gadling.com/2011/06/03/save-everest-campaign-removes-8-tons-of-waste/)**
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> Way back at the beginning of April we told you about Nepal’s Save Mt. Everest campaign, a project sponsored by that nation’s tourism board that hoped to clean up the world’s tallest mountain, and the region that surrounds it. Now, two months later,...

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[http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/22/shouldering-waste-on-the-trek-down-mount-everest/](http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/22/shouldering-waste-on-the-trek-down-mount-everest/)

Sadly, there’s still plenty to go.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/16 "2013-05-01T00:34:24Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> Could be a long wait, in view of the equipment + skills + conditioning needed to safely walk down from there.
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> (I suppose you could arrange to be met by Sherpas who’d take care of you.)

No, you just bring a second parachute and then jump down off the peak.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/17 "2013-05-01T01:48:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, you just bring a second parachute and then jump down off the peak.

Paraglider - it’s already been done. [Babu Sunuwar flies off Everest | Cross Country Magazine](http://www.xcmag.com/2011/05/babu-sunuwar-flies-off-everest/)

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/18 "2013-05-01T01:52:39Z")

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I’ll just stick to looking at the mountain from my T.V. thanks.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/19 "2013-05-01T11:48:40Z")

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> [@sparky\_1](#):
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> I’d be more impressed with the first person to lug 500lb of trash down off the mountain that the other climbers leave on Everest.

Does that includecorpses?😉

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-climbing-mt-everest-dust-up-near-summit/657024/20 "2013-05-01T12:09:28Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> Here’s a link to his website, where a [reasonably complete description of the incident](http://www.uelisteck.ch/en/news/news/354-medienmitteilung-29042013.html) is posted.

Seems that the three climbers whose lives were threatened are doing an admirable job of threading the needle between “recognizing the larger social-cultural resentments which underly the incident” and “thankful that the authorities seem to be making sure that individual perpetrators are held accountable for their actions”.

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