# What's with the creative spelling? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 9, 2000, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680 "2000-02-09T17:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![labradorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@labradorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labradorian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/21 "2000-02-10T15:14:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Anyway…I hate when people spell lose as “loose”. I’ve seen that in a printed book from the 1790s. It’s probably been bugging people for a long time. * * * **Dee da dee da dee dee do do / Dee ba ditty doh / Deedle dooby doo ba dee um bee ooby / Be doodle oodle doodle dee doh** [http://members.xoom.com/labradorian/](http://members.xoom.com/labradorian/) ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/22 "2000-02-10T15:24:00Z")
creative spelling?? dont know about that, but you should bloody well have something to say! thats what matters to me…the truth in a statement instead of the way of communication used to get it through to the reader. of course you should make yourself understandable, not make efforts towards incoherency. thus the way you communicate should not matter. just what you say/write. bj0rn - this ---
**Author:** ![Bucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Bucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bucky)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/23 "2000-02-10T15:56:00Z")
If I could ever read one of bjOrn’s posts without my eyes bugging out, I might know what he’s talking about. Bjorn, the way we communicate DOES mater–if it didn’t, I would write in Buckese. Not using punctuation, capital letters, phrases that exist in English make it harder to tell if there is an idea in the first place. No thanx to thanks, by the way. frustrated after reading papers that still use “alot” as one word, Bucky * * * Oh, well. We can always make more killbots. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/24 "2000-02-10T16:43:00Z")
it does not, for the reader only has to focus on the truth of the statement the original speaker makes. its as simple as that. if the reader fails to see the truth he can not argue/debate on the subject. for example i say that the way you communicate does not matter, like if i was speaking another language than you were what i say would be translated into your language by a translator. the translator would not have to translate what i said word by word, just the point i am making. thus i can speak whatever language i see fit, just as long as you are able to see the truth of my statements. i do not belive that you are incapable of interpeting my words into your language, if you are you have a severe reading disability or a bad sense of humour. rule #1: before you critizise other people spelling and grammar you should work on yours. rule #2: do not argue a subject without a full knowledge(or in pursuit of) the truth in subject. bj0rn - þæö!!! ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/25 "2000-02-10T17:12:00Z")
So, bj(zero)rn, would you disagree with the following or is it a non-truth? To characterize a linguistic understanding level, the natural general principle that will subsume this case is not to be considered in determining an abstract underlying order. Comparing these examples with their parasitic gap counterparts, we see that the systematic use of complex symbols is unspecified with respect to a corpus of utterance tokens upon which conformity has been defined by the paired utterance test. So far, a subset of English sentences, interesting on quite independent grounds is, apparently, determined by a general convention regarding the forms of the grammar. It appears that the notion of the level of grammaticalness delimits the system of base rules exclusive of the lexicon. ---
**Author:** ![Bucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Bucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bucky)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/26 "2000-02-10T20:36:00Z")
[QUOTE] Originally posted by bj0rn: \*\*it does not, for the reader only has to focus on the truth of the statement the original speaker makes. its as simple as that. if the reader fails to see the truth he can not argue/debate on the subject. If the writer cannot make sense the reader has no chance of seeing the truth. Here’s an example: +\_hisado## niod$^ (8ns;l!! for example i say that the way you communicate does not matter, like if i was speaking another language than you were what i say would be translated into your language by a translator. the translator would not have to translate what i said word by word, just the point i am making. Translator, please? thus i can speak whatever language i see fit, just as long as you are able to see the truth of my statements. i do not belive that you are incapable of interpeting my words into your language, if you are you have a severe reading disability or a bad sense of humour. I don’t interpret words into my language. Nobody does. rule #1: before you critizise other people spelling and grammar you should work on yours. Is this a complaint? Where is the error? (Given that every non-sentence you write is an error, it’s a little hard NOT to point it out.) rule #2: do not argue a subject without a full knowledge(or in pursuit of) the truth in subject. Where’s the “full knowledge (or in pursuit of) the truth in subject” here? What the hell is that supposed to mean? P.S. Use of a small “i” in writing indicates that the writer is the slave in a master/slave relationship. If that is the idea here, I forthwith order Bjorn to write with capital letters, punctuation, and in a way pleasing to his master Bucky. If not, screw that. Bucky * * * Oh, well. We can always make more killbots. ---
**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/27 "2000-02-10T21:09:00Z")
UncleBeer, you da man, too! Rarely does one get to read such brilliantly constructed bovine excrement designed specifically to make the point of denigrating bovine excrement. I take my hat off to you, sirrah! * * * The Dave-Guy “since my daughter’s only half-Jewish, can she go in up to her knees?” J.H. Marx ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/28 "2000-02-10T21:15:00Z")
I wish I could take credit for that garbled prose, but it is generated by a little DOS utility I downloaded from [The Church of the Subgenius](http://www.subgenius.com/). I suspect their entire website was written with it. If you want it I’d be glad to e-mail a copy to you. ---
**Author:** ![Cactus\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Cactus\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cactus_Rose)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2000, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/29 "2000-02-11T05:39:00Z")
Now we know NanoByte’s secret! * * * - A rose by any other name would still have thorns - ---
**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2000, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/30 "2000-02-11T07:12:00Z")
Originally posted by Unclebeer: > [@](#): > > It appears that the notion of the level of grammaticalness delimits the system of base > rules exclusive of the **lexicon.** (Emphashis mine.) Wow! You love me! You really love me! Muuu-aahh! Muuu-aahh! \>\>\>\>Maniacal Konrad style cackling\<\<\<\< Noonch. * * * how did it start? well i don’t know i just feel the craving. i see the flesh and it smells fresh and it’s just there for the taking… VvvV ---
**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2000, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/31 "2000-02-11T22:52:00Z")
**UncleBeer** , I dare you to use that gobbledy-gook generator in a Great Debates thread. * * * Tell a man that there are 400 billion stars and he’ll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint and he has to touch it. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2000, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/32 "2000-02-11T23:00:00Z")
Aw hell, Sterling. Now that’s a challenge. There’s no way in the wide wide world of blazing saddles I can pass that up. I’ll even let you pick the thread, just point me int the right direction and it’s done. ---
**Author:** ![AzRaek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/azraek/32/16739_2.png) [@AzRaek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AzRaek)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/33 "2000-02-14T04:35:00Z")
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. * * * I’m not a fallen angel, I’m a risen demon. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/34 "2000-02-14T04:54:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I take my hat off to you, sirrah! Dave, I know you meant well, and Uncle Beer took it well, HOWEVER, you just might look up the usage (with connotations) that are associated with the word _sirrah_ before some less understanding individual decides you are taking a cheap shot. (If you are lacking a good dictionary at home, try [http://www.m-w.com/](http://www.m-w.com/) .) * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/35 "2000-02-14T12:33:00Z")
Not to worry, my good Tom. I was aware of the meaning of, ‘sirrah;’ I assumed it not used in a demeaning manor; that connotation would not mesh with the overall flavor of the post. Thanks, though for the clarification and your help in stamping out ignorance; you are one of the true warriors. There’s another pretty good dictionary at [www.onelook.com](http://www.onelook.com) It searches multiple dictionaries, including entries in some pretty decent specialty types. ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/36 "2000-02-14T23:02:00Z")
i hjh hbjunx [fdh mnb gtyhg jjmuj ---
**Author:** ![Surgoshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Surgoshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surgoshan)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2000, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/37 "2000-02-14T23:04:00Z")
Note: The previous post was created by dropping a stuffed puffin on my keyboard. The message was, however, created with a specific goal in mind, and was aimed at a single point and has a specific meaning. Judge it on those merits, and those merits alone, please. * * * I sold my soul to Satan for a dollar. I got it in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/38 "2000-02-15T06:18:00Z")
[[Note: The previous post was created by dropping a stuffed puffin on my keyboard.]] A stuffed puffin. I’ve dropped em on my keyboard and ended up with misplaced apostrophes. I was late to work this morning, because I ran over a stuffed puffin and had to stop and make sure it was dead. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2000, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/39 "2000-02-15T09:15:00Z")
> [@](#): > > It appears that the notion of the level of grammaticalness delimits the system of base rules exclusive of the lexicon. it is not a “non-truth”, its simply an conclusion to a series of statements and does not under any circumstances tell you how you are supposed to write. the assumption (note the “appears”) is made following an explanation on how to characterize a linguistic understanding. based on the fact that there are many languages spoken in the world one can assume, without “knowing”, that grammar varies from one language to another. without assuming i can say that several languages do have different grammar rules. another fact is that lots of persons here do not have english(this is an english speaking message board with an international access)as the first language. english speaking people **can not** expect everybody to write correct grammar even if there are some non english speakers that do. it would be like i was to assume you were supposed to use icelandic grammar just so i could have a easier time understanding what you are saying. > [@](#): > > i hjh hbjunx [fdh mnb gtyhg jjmuj how often did you have to drop your stuffed pal onto your keyboard? he seems to be pretty good with spaces. bj0rn -´Rómverskur riddari, réðist inn í Rómaborg. Rændi þar og ruplaði, rabbabara og rófum. ---
**Author:** ![Rockchick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Rockchick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rockchick)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2000, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-creative-spelling/4680/40 "2000-02-29T21:27:00Z")
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