# What's with the extreme reactions in Donald Trump?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 4, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907 "2016-03-04T08:40:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/81 "2016-03-04T20:57:52Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> As if there aren’t lunatics in every country in the world. Or deluded religious fundamentalists. Or inveterate liars who believe every word that they say regardless of its actual truth.

> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Let’s not try to twist things too much. People who have been labeling him racist, sexist, a clown, a liar, and SIMILAR to Hitler have only to quote his multitude of comments along these lines to have credibility. Your unsubstantiated claims are the ones which lack it.

You accept “quotes” taken out of context as fact and then talk about the actual truth. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/82 "2016-03-04T21:08:52Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Are you seriously going to say that making fun of people is not working on the Trump collective? That’s half of Donald’s schtick and you know that perfectly well. Or did you somehow manage to miss all the sweaty Little Marco comments?

That kind of thinking must be why the Democrats lost control of both houses of Congress during Obama’s reign.

Do you believe that the Democrat collectives attempts at ridicule are having any effect on Trump supporters? Seriously? Democrats seem to have a way of ignoring reality when they’re telling each other what Republicans and conservatives should think, or when Democrats are telling Democrats how wanting to control Congress is the same as actually controlling Congress.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/83 "2016-03-04T21:09:39Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Lindsey Graham? Isn’t he one of the former GOP candidates for President? He may think that the guy(s) who beat him aren’t good enough to have beaten him but they did beat him. The voters have spoken.

And what about John McCain? (I forget, do you think he is a war hero or not?)

How about Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan [discussing](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/ryan-and-mcconnells-donald-trump-plan-220062) how Trump is going to cost Republican seats in Congress?

Republicans are now in the worst circular firing squad in modern history, so its funny you are under the illusion that it is Democrats who are attacking Trump. As for now, Democrats are pretty much sticking by the “when your enemies are shooting themselves in the foot, don’t intervene” policy.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/84 "2016-03-04T21:10:26Z")

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@doorhinge: You answer my questions first.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/85 "2016-03-04T21:12:10Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Republicans are now in the worst circular firing squad in modern history, so its funny you are under the illusion that it is Democrats who are attacking Trump. As for now, Democrats are pretty much sticking by the “when your enemies are shooting themselves in the foot, don’t intervene” policy.

This.

Republicans are attacking the hell out of trump, and the rest of the public are sitting back and enjoying the spectacle.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/86 "2016-03-04T21:24:25Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You accept “quotes” taken out of context as fact and then talk about the actual truth. Interesting.

Out of context, huh?

Like the Donald promising to build the Great Wall of Mexico or to deport anyone of Arabic origin (oh, and then turn around and suggest that it would be alright to accept Syrian refugees)? ([https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform))

Or to say that women are essentially trophies? ([18 Real Things Donald Trump Has Actually Said About Women | HuffPost Women](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-real-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-women_us_55d356a8e4b07addcb442023))

Or to claim that his net worth is based on how he feels at the time? ([Trump Once Said Some Amazing Things About His Net Worth Under Oath | Fortune](http://fortune.com/2016/03/03/trump-net-worth/))

What context is it to which you refer? Please provide specific examples refuting these points rather than making, as I stated before, unsubstantiated claims.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/87 "2016-03-04T21:35:02Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Do you believe that the Democrat collectives attempts at ridicule are having any effect on Trump supporters?

At this point, I don’t give a flying shit what “Democrat collectives” can do to Trump.

I’m entirely certain that Republican collectives are completely capable of destroying him (and themselves) on their own.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/88 "2016-03-04T23:05:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Republicans are now in the worst circular firing squad in modern history, so its funny you are under the illusion that it is Democrats who are attacking Trump. As for now, Democrats are pretty much sticking by the “when your enemies are shooting themselves in the foot, don’t intervene” policy.

They are aiming a bit higher than the foot. I don’t recall a time when so many in a party are scared of the leading candidate, I think they have $5 million to run anti-Trump ads in Florida. Hell, the Republicans are doing Hillary’s work for her. Half of her advertising is going to be rerunning Republican ads.  
The other half will be about stuff the Republican are scared of discussing, like anti-immigrant hatred.  
And given the reaction to Christie, not many Republican leaders are going to be behind him on stage - not without a clothespin on their noses, at least.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/89 "2016-03-04T23:14:18Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Which is better than 100 trillion times worse as his opponents intend to do. Or possibly this is a pointless argument since none of them have a comprehensive plan and analysis by those who have been wrong about the economy repeatedly isn’t a very useful argument.

You know, if you are predicting what will happen in the economy, there is room for disagreement. But talking about what has happened is a different story.  
Back in 2009 with the large deficits you guys are ranting about, you in general predicted high inflation and all sorts of horrors. When ACA was passed you predicted a massive loss of jobs. A spiraling deficit. Catastrophe.

What’s happened? Romney claimed he would lower unemployment to 6% with his voodoo economics. The horrible Obama mismanagement lowered it to under 5. The deficit has been cut more than promised. ACA did not result in massive job losses, and did result in a big drop in the uninsured (I know, a bad results for Republicans.) Inflation is too low if anything. The dollar is too strong if anything. Oh, and oil is absurdly cheap. Wages have even begun to rise.

Yeah, there is still too much income inequality, but I don’t think Republican solutions of cutting taxes on the rich is going to resonate with anyone who is not so brainwashed by Fox News that they can look at the facts.  
We know the Big Lie can work. No surprise that the Donald is a Mussolini fanboy. We’ll see how he steps up his dictator admiring game.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/90 "2016-03-05T03:03:35Z")

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> [@sleestak](#):
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> And how exactly is this different than most politicians?
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> As far as I can tell, Trump is just honest about it while the rest of the pols try to hide it.

Is your argument that they shouldn’t be President either, and we should bother to find one of the few that are worthy of this trust? If so, I agree. If your argument is that we should just throw up our hands and hand this power to someone so shameless that he won’t even wait until we’re not looking to start shitting the bed, I’d say that’s even worse than an amoral bastard who is at least restrained by his desire to _pretend_ to be a decent human being.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/91 "2016-03-05T07:46:11Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> What’s happened? Romney claimed he would lower unemployment to 6% with his voodoo economics. The horrible Obama mismanagement lowered it to under 5. The deficit has been cut more than promised. ACA did not result in massive job losses, and did result in a big drop in the uninsured (I know, a bad results for Republicans.) Inflation is too low if anything. The dollar is too strong if anything. Oh, and oil is absurdly cheap. Wages have even begun to rise.

If Republicans want to “make America great again” it’s as simple as switching news channels.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/92 "2016-03-09T13:56:35Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Being respectful to other people is not something that comes easily to Trump. Indeed, you could call that his biggest character trait. Are you actually watching this guy?

> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Been watching quite a lot. Right now, Rubio, Cruz are competition… Once he becomes nominee, he doesn’t need to comment on them. People may like to provoke him for a comment later on, but he will have to realise that he will have more to lose and much less to gain by replying in similar tone at that time. I think he will realise.

Today he thanked Megyn Kelly and Charles Krauthammer and is talking of becoming more Presidential in conduct.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/93 "2016-03-09T14:16:43Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Today he thanked Megyn Kelly and Charles Krauthammer and is talking of becoming more Presidential in conduct.

For about 40% of the Republicans. Still not good enough for the rest of Americans.

[http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton)

> **[Charles Krauthammer's message to Donald Trump: Nice try](https://www.yahoo.com/news/charles-krauthammers-message-donald-trump-033112160.html)**
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> Syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor responds to the Republican presidential frontrunner's press conference shout-out: Donald, it's not going to work

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> Charles Krauthammer’s message to Donald Trump: Nice try

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/94 "2016-03-09T14:54:02Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> For about 40% of the Republicans. Still not good enough for the rest of Americans.
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> [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton)
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> [Charles Krauthammer's message to Donald Trump: Nice try](http://news.yahoo.com/video/charles-krauthammers-message-donald-trump-033112160.html)

Megyn Kelly: Trump Is “A Breath Of Fresh Air” From The Canned Speeches:🙂  
[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/08/megyn\_kelly\_trump\_is\_a\_breath\_of\_fresh\_air\_from\_the\_canned\_speeches.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/08/megyn_kelly_trump_is_a_breath_of_fresh_air_from_the_canned_speeches.html)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/95 "2016-03-09T15:00:10Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Megyn Kelly: Trump Is “A Breath Of Fresh Air” From The Canned Speeches:🙂  
> [Megyn Kelly: Trump Is A Breath Of Fresh Air From The Canned Speeches | Video | RealClearPolitics](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/08/megyn_kelly_trump_is_a_breath_of_fresh_air_from_the_canned_speeches.html)

Many in the media still needs to squeeze all that Trump’s money in the general election.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/96 "2016-03-09T15:07:47Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Today he thanked Megyn Kelly and Charles Krauthammer and is talking of becoming more Presidential in conduct.

This the night after he gave [a rambling press conference where he bragged about his line of licensed products](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-celebrates-big-michigan-mississippi-wins-amid-branded-products/) and showed off a fake display of “Trump Steaks” in order to soothe his ego about having the product get made fun of by a late-night comedian two weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/97 "2016-03-09T15:33:33Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> This the night after he gave [a rambling press conference where he bragged about his line of licensed products](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-celebrates-big-michigan-mississippi-wins-amid-branded-products/) and showed off a fake display of “Trump Steaks” in order to soothe his ego about having the product get made fun of by a late-night comedian two weeks ago.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so thin-skinned and petty at the national level. I have zero doubt that if he is elected he will set about evening the score on anyone who ever looked at him sideways. A foreign leader will make a perceived slight, and Trump will see about ways to screw that guy or gal’s country over.

I wish I were kidding.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/98 "2016-03-09T15:49:10Z")

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Color me unsurprised that the person who said this…

> [@"'Your son has killed two kafirs. I slit their throats with a dagger'"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/14):
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> Again, all there is to be said is one should differentiate between Islam and Muslims as people. Terrorism/Jihad is part of core Islam. Love and respect Muslims at an individual level as much as non-Muslims. But make no mistakes about the fact that Islam is a poison for society, and for the world.

…supports the candidate with the most anti-Islamic rhetoric.

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Many in the media still needs to squeeze all that Trump’s money in the general election.

The media love Trump because people tune in to see what Trump’s latest statement or action was and to hear the media discuss (or ridicule) it endlessly. Trump is good copy and he knows it, and continues to say and do anything that will get him talked about. It’s win-win for Trump and the media, even if it’s “lose” for everyone else.

I don’t particularly think that Trump believes or cares about the stuff he says - his main objective is to get talked about, since his supporters don’t care what he says and everyone else ain’t gonna vote for him anyway. What I do care about - and what has been repeatedly pointed out - is that the only thing that Trump is good at is making money for himself. He leaves behind him a long string of failed businesses (and marriages, although that’s incidental) where the brunt of the consequences of the failures have fallen on his investors, his employees, his customers, and occasionally the taxpayers. Why would we want to put someone like that in charge of the entire country when his track record indicates that he will happily allow it to fall to pieces as long as he gets what he wants? And since what he wants is “to be President”, he really has no incentive to do anything one he achieves it. Anyone thinking he’ll bring wider peace and prosperity to all really hasn’t been paying attention.

**TL,DR version - the Trump Business Plan**

1. Promise much
2. Achieve little
3. Blame others
4. Profit!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/99 "2016-03-09T16:01:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Tariffs and wage floors aren’t the solution to trade imbalance.

Then what is? Not economic libertarianism, to be sure.

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**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-extreme-reactions-in-donald-trump/747907/100 "2016-03-09T16:20:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> This the night after he gave [a rambling press conference where he bragged about his line of licensed products](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-celebrates-big-michigan-mississippi-wins-amid-branded-products/) and showed off a fake display of “Trump Steaks” in order to soothe his ego about having the product get made fun of by a late-night comedian two weeks ago.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Color me unsurprised that the person who said this…supports the candidate with the most anti-Islamic rhetoric.
> 
> The media love Trump because people tune in to see what Trump’s latest statement or action was and to hear the media discuss (or ridicule) it endlessly. Trump is good copy and he knows it, and continues to say and do anything that will get him talked about. It’s win-win for Trump and the media, even if it’s “lose” for everyone else.

If you guys want to listen how he plans to abt Govt. Debt, and how he plans to deal with currency manipulation by China causing the large trade deficit , listen from 34 mins in today’s speech:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA6x6RMY4zw)

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