# What's with the flurry of bannings of late?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695>\
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**Created:** [December 11, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695 "2019-12-11T04:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/61 "2019-12-11T22:00:17Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Shit, it’s actually 18 years. My account is old enough to drink!

Mine’s twenty years and four-odd months, but that’s not old enough to drink here. However, my account can vote!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/62 "2019-12-12T02:09:35Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> **Moderator Note**
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> Reference to a poster’s politics and posting style may be relevant, but that kind of crack is over the line. Knock it off.
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> Colibri

He wasn’t talking about a poster. He was talking about a non-member of the Boards. Which you know, because you’re the one who announced the banning.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/63 "2019-12-12T02:26:09Z")

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Waitaminute… Isn’t **Bone** a conservative?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/64 "2019-12-12T02:27:53Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> He wasn’t talking about a poster. He was talking about a non-member of the Boards. Which you know, because you’re the one who announced the banning.

If you must nitpick, a former member of the boards, but I’m sure you know what I meant.

That remark had nothing to do with the reason the poster was banned, and as such doesn’t belong in ATMB. The reasons why a poster was banned may be a subject for discussion in this forum after they are no longer able to post. Nasty personal attacks for other things they’ve posted aren’t appropriate in this forum.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/65 "2019-12-12T02:35:26Z")

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Gotta back up Colibri, here.

That sort of crack says more about the writer than the subject.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/66 "2019-12-12T02:47:17Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Waitaminute… Isn’t **Bone** a conservative?

My impression is that he was a very strong Second Amendment supporter, but he didn’t ping my conservative radar otherwise.

I think I’ve received a mod note or two (one deserved, one not, in my useless opinion), but never a warning in my 17 years here (my tenure could have a limited driver’s license in my state). If you don’t post to piss people off, you probably won’t get a warning. Although, I’m probably just considered too milquetoast of a poster to be a warning target anyway.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/67 "2019-12-12T04:28:49Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> My impression is that he was a very strong Second Amendment supporter, but he didn’t ping my conservative radar otherwise.  
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Yep, **Bone** & I supported the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd. Doesnt make us Conservative. I pretty much vote dem. Not sure about Bone.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/68 "2019-12-12T06:08:26Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You haven’t answered my question.

You are asking because you think exact equivalence is needed to establish the existence of bias. I posted what I posted because exact equivalence was disregarded and basically pretended not to exist in order to act, in large part, due to external pressure. There’s a reason Bone blew up over at the giraffe folks and then left this board. Different standards for different folks based on popularity was a large part of it.

So, no I can’t provide exact equivalence for the set of circumstances you are asking about that would satisfy you. But even if I could it still wouldn’t be sufficient and you know that. So why ask?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/69 "2019-12-12T06:49:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yep, **Bone** & I supported the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd. Doesnt make us Conservative. I pretty much vote dem. Not sure about Bone.

**Bone** was( maybe still is )a declared [single-issue voter](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20110394&postcount=25), with upholding gun rights being at least the gate before any further examination of a candidate. So I _suspect_ that as a Californian he was rarely a DP voter. There are pro-gun rights Dems in West Virginia, not so many out here. Which doesn’t mean he was a reliable Republican voter either - he noted he often wrote in candidates or voted libertarian.

He _was_ in the slightly more conservative cohort on this particular board, but he struck me as more libertarian than capital “C” Conservative, a bit like **John Mace**.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/70 "2019-12-12T11:21:22Z")

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I’m going to declare this analysis of Bone out-of-bounds. I don’t know if he’s still checking the boards but this may make him uncomfortable and I respect him too much for that.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/71 "2019-12-12T12:49:33Z")

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Now we can’t even relentlessly microanalyze the internal motivations of people who aren’t even part of the discussions? You’re just sucking all the joy out of the boards, mods.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/72 "2019-12-12T13:39:03Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> …The first rule of survival on the Dope is if a mod slaps you down, stay down.

If there is one thing I’ve learned about watching Live PD, it’s if you’re on probation and totin’ a firearm don’t drive around with a burnt out license plate bulb.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/73 "2019-12-12T14:27:28Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> If there is one thing I’ve learned about watching Live PD, it’s if you’re on probation and totin’ a firearm don’t drive around with a burnt out license plate bulb.

… especially not with all your meth on you!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/74 "2019-12-12T14:43:22Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> So, no I can’t provide exact equivalence for the set of circumstances you are asking about that would satisfy you.

Thanks for the admission you don’t have a case.😉

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> But even if I could it still wouldn’t be sufficient and you know that. So why ask?

I might ask the same of you.😃

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/75 "2019-12-12T15:36:06Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> He wasn’t talking about a poster. He was talking about a non-member of the Boards. Which you know, because you’re the one who announced the banning.

No, he’s right. I shouldn’t have said that in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/76 "2019-12-13T01:05:57Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Seems fairly straightforward to me.

That may be THE best description for this I’ve ever read here. Kudos — or Cujos; either one could be worthwhile. 😉

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/77 "2019-12-13T03:46:54Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I can honestly say that nothing Bone did was out of the ordinary. He had as much input into bans and sanctions while he was a mod as any of us do. That and no more. Any actions taken since his departure - and I wish him well - he had no input nor influence over in any way.

This may be somehow an improper, or at least ungrantable, request, but would it be possible for the administrative staff to display for our collective edification, a transcript of the proceedings of a past banning, so everyone can have at least a simulacrum of the reality of what y’all work through before reaching a consensus decision about such an action?

Apparently, some people aren’t to be satisfied with a simple list of infractions that usually accompanies a banning announcement.

I’ve sometimes seen a banning/suspension telegraphed with a warning post that states _“your posting privileges are currently under review.”_ On the one hand, your own “executive privileges,” if you will, merit some deference. At the same time, _”your posting privileges are currently under review”_ carries a whiff of the Star Chamber about it. It just seems to me that some people here prefer to presume the worst possible process to be going on, and a look at a “typical” discussion (if one exists ;)) might de-mystify things somewhat, and perhaps engender some trust that you’re NOT primarily jackbooted thugs committed to maintaining order in an echo chamber.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/78 "2019-12-13T04:00:47Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On a related note, I am curious how a banned poster finds out they got banned. Do they just try to log in as usual and then find out “username and/or password does not work?”

AIUI, every poster is honor-bound to provide a valid email address where they can be reached by the administrative staff; I further understand that a notification of both warnings and banninations to that email address would be sent out. Anyone who provided a bogus email address and avoided getting notified would be, _prima facie_, in violation of the board’s TOS, and would have precious little cause for complaint, having scammed however many days of posting privileges already.

ETA: that can always read the site without logging in, and learn about it when they see BANNED beneath their username on one of their posts.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/79 "2019-12-13T04:07:25Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Thanks for the admission you don’t have a case.😉
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> I might ask the same of you.😃

It’s nothing of the sort. It’s pointless to point out bias when the situation is not 100% exact because even when a situation is a 100% exact like Ed Zotti’s post on allowable pit behavior the clearly written, English words are said to mean what they don’t say. So if 100% equivalencies with different outcomes is not sufficient to prove a case less than 100% is surely not sufficient. You know what I am saying is correct regardless of your spin.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-flurry-of-bannings-of-late/844695/80 "2019-12-13T04:09:16Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Shit, it’s actually 18 years. My account is old enough to drink!

In _your_ country. Here in USAianaland, it’s only old enough to sign binding contracts and vote.

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