# What's with the Styx hate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [November 30, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561 "2011-11-30T15:07:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561/61 "2021-12-14T16:56:34Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Dennis DeYoung clearly wanted to do artistic, theatrical, and sometimes prog-y sorts of music; he was the driving force behind _Kilroy Was Here_ , as well as songs like “Come Sail Away.” Guitarists James Young and Tommy Shaw, on the other hand, preferred straight-ahead rock songs. Thus, you have rocking songs like “Renegade” and “Miss America” from the same band that did “Come Sail Away” and “Mr. Roboto.” I think the _Paradise Theater_ album is the perfect synergy of these two competing impulses. It’s just a great album, start to finish, no matter the haters. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561/62 "2021-12-14T23:46:23Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > So in the [I Hate Beatles Fans](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=632906) thread in the Pit, CheeseDonkey is being castigated for liking them. No, you missed the point. It could’ve been almost any band. What happened was, CheeseDonkey started the thread with utter contempt for the Beatles… > Fuck the Beatles. They suck. I don’t give two shits if they “inspired generations of music,” the music they created sucks. It was formula bubblegum pop with kindergarten lyrics and whiny-voiced singers. Fuck them all. Then went on and on to piss all over anyone who liked their music. Someone then pointed out that CheeseDonkey had posts rhapsodizing about Styx music, and Dennis DeYoung in particular. Real fanboy stuff, _exactly_ what he was accusing any Beatles fans of. So it was the hypocrisy of raging against one rock band and their fans, and then we find out he’s the same sort of fan, only for an even more “lightweight” band. And the charge would’ve stuck whether it was Styx, or Journey, or Aerosmith, or Weezer, or NSYNC, or Oasis, or Whitesnake, or Linkin Park, or Nickelback… or really any band less talented, less important than the Beatles. Hey, I actually like most Styx (Blue Collar Man, Angry Young Man, Renegade… just not the schmaltziness of Babe or Layyyy-dyyyy…) But would I rage against a band like the Beatles while applauding Styx? That’d mean I had NO grasp of popular music, and ZERO self-awareness… ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561/63 "2021-12-15T15:37:25Z")
For those of you who do like Sytx, YouTube Tommy Shaw Contemporary Youth Orchestra [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=tommy+shaw+contemporary+youth+orchestra](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tommy+shaw+contemporary+youth+orchestra) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561/64 "2021-12-15T17:00:46Z")
> [@Jinx](#): > > Ok, the USA also had Lynyrd Skynyrd, Kiss, maybe early Bob Seger and what? Beach Boys? Are you talking about 70’s influential rock? If so, America had a hell of a lot more great bands than that. Just off the top of my head: Aerosmith Allman brothers Steely Dan Boston Heart Creedence Clearwater Revival Santana Foreigner Eagles ZZ Top Steve Miller Band The Doobie Brothers Van Halen REO Speedwagon Journey If you make it North America, you can add: Rush The Guess Who Bachman-Turner Overdrive The Band Neil Young [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-with-the-styx-hate/604561.md?page=3)