# What's Wrong With Black Lives Matter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 15, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879 "2016-08-15T04:58:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/141 "2016-08-17T13:24:12Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I didn’t notice because I didn’t bother to read it. If you did, why didn’t you link to the Lancet article, hmmmm?

You will have to excuse my lack of interest in your mischaracterization of things you haven’t read.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/142 "2016-08-17T13:30:57Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> You will have to excuse my lack of interest in your mischaracterization of things you haven’t read.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Hey, could you help me out? I’m trying to ignore inconvenient facts, could you help me with that?

Like the following:

> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I also noticed that the subtitle of your first link was “alcohol is more harmful than heroin or crack,” which is a bit of an inconvenient fact if you claim sentencing guidelines are related to harm.

You did a good job of not responding to this one, what was your secret?

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> Here’s an actual [peer-reviewed journal article](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8918856): “The physiological and psychoactive effects of cocaine are similar regardless of whether it is in the form of cocaine hydrochloride or crack cocaine…the federal sentencing guidelines allowing possession of 100 times more cocaine hydrochloride than crack cocaine to trigger mandatory minimum penalties is deemed excessive.”

And you completely ignored this one. Did your martial arts training help?

> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> If you did, why didn’t you link to the Lancet article, hmmmm?

You did an expert job of changing the subject on this one. How do I learn more?

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**Author:** ![Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffes_Can_t_Dance)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/143 "2016-08-17T14:14:02Z")

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Leftists like George Soros, who fund BLM, use them to wreak havoc, Alinsky style.

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**Author:** ![Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffes_Can_t_Dance)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/144 "2016-08-17T14:16:52Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You said that nobody held a rally for that kid. He provided a link proving that you were completely wrong about that. In what possible way is that an irrelevant link?
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> Also, your concern for the problems facing African American communities would be a bit more convincing if it weren’t predicated on completely ignoring everything African Americans say about their problems they’re facing.

I live in Chicago. There was no “rally”. That’s the problem with drive-by linking: people link as if it is gospel.  
I’ve heard what the black community has said; and I call BS. Pandering is not the same as supporting. Such pandering has assisted in the mess that currently encompasses many black communities.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/145 "2016-08-17T14:17:26Z")

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> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#):
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> Leftists like George Soros, who fund BLM, use them to wreak havoc, Alinsky style.

Two hits in Right Wing Buzzword Bingo! Waiting for “Cultural Marxism”…

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**Author:** ![Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5e9695/32.png) [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffes_Can_t_Dance)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/146 "2016-08-17T14:19:43Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Warning again. You need to learn that you can’t treat other posters like this here at the SDMB. Otherwise your time here will be short.

Fuck off!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/147 "2016-08-17T14:35:35Z")

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> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#):
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> Fuck off!

Do they let you talk like that over on your own message-board?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/148 "2016-08-17T14:51:59Z")

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> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#):
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> Fuck off!

Bye, Felicia.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/149 "2016-08-17T15:05:48Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Do they let you talk like that over on your own message-board?

Wrong **Giraffe** , I think.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/150 "2016-08-17T15:08:45Z")

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> [@Giraffes\_Can\_t\_Dance](#):
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> BANNED

Giraffe lives matter!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/151 "2016-08-17T15:16:52Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Do they let you talk like that over on your own message-board?

> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Wrong **Giraffe** , I think.

No, I’m talking about the ballroom dancing message board that **Giraffes Can’t Dance** moderates.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/152 "2016-08-17T17:20:58Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Giraffe lives matter!

Evolution in action. The surviving conservatives on this board tend to be among the most thoughtful anonymous conservatives I see almost anywhere on the internet.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/153 "2016-08-17T18:42:43Z")

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Well, this one certainly stuck is neck out …

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/154 "2016-08-17T18:50:15Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Evolution in action. The surviving conservatives on this board tend to be among the most thoughtful anonymous conservatives I see almost anywhere on the internet.

He wasn’t a conservative, he was a sock.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/155 "2016-08-17T18:53:52Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’m sure it’s a big relief to the guy imprisoned for 5 years for 1g of crack, that at least he isn’t in a _Chinese_ prison…

I’m pretty sure no black person has EVER been imprisoned with an otherwise clean record and the first time they ever, ever, ever committed a crime was possessing a little crack. Some white middle class person with a coke habit hasn’t ever broken into my car and house repeatedly costing me 1000’s of dollars and driving my insurance through the roof and terrorising me and generally destroying the neighborhood. What are cops for? To make society a better place to live. I don’t care if middle class hard working white people snort coke. I care that I can’t live near a black neighborhood without being a constant victim of crime and being expected to pretend what is, isn’t.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/156 "2016-08-17T19:04:22Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I’m pretty sure no black person has EVER been imprisoned with an otherwise clean record and the first time they ever, ever, ever committed a crime was possessing a little crack. Some white middle class person with a coke habit hasn’t ever broken into my car and house repeatedly costing me 1000’s of dollars and driving my insurance through the roof and terrorising me and generally destroying the neighborhood. What are cops for? To make society a better place to live. I don’t care if middle class hard working white people snort coke. I care that I can’t live near a black neighborhood without being a constant victim of crime and being expected to pretend what is, isn’t.

I was going to contest this, but then I saw that you’re “pretty sure”. Well, that’s good enough for me – I’m convinced by your pretty surety.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/157 "2016-08-17T19:37:50Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I’m pretty sure no black person has EVER been imprisoned with an otherwise clean record and the first time they ever, ever, ever committed a crime was possessing a little crack. Some white middle class person with a coke habit hasn’t ever broken into my car and house repeatedly costing me 1000’s of dollars and driving my insurance through the roof and terrorising me and generally destroying the neighborhood. What are cops for? To make society a better place to live. I don’t care if middle class hard working white people snort coke. I care that I can’t live near a black neighborhood without being a constant victim of crime and being expected to pretend what is, isn’t.

…so, it’s OK for the police to kill innocent black people and BLM should shut up about it?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/158 "2016-08-17T19:49:18Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> …so, it’s OK for the police to kill innocent black people and BLM should shut up about it?

Define “innocent.”

Would I like to live in a world where people don’t commit crime? Yes! People like to point to places like western Europe and then the usual suspects will say “different demographics!.” Well, what does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/159 "2016-08-17T19:51:07Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Well, what does that mean?

That’s a good question. What the fuck are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-black-lives-matter/762879/160 "2016-08-17T19:56:08Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That’s a good question. What the fuck are you talking about?

When you solve the problem get back to me. I’ll vote you prez.

In the meantime, asking stupid little rhetorical questions gets us exactly where we are.

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