# What's wrong with Burger King?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 28, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560 "2010-12-28T00:42:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/41 "2010-12-28T21:47:04Z")

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All the food is old and cold or microwaved and luke warm. Had they made hot fresh food when ordered I could have ignored those horrible sexually suggestive ads that made me never want to eat there.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/42 "2010-12-28T22:01:33Z")

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My little boy was crazy for Ironman, so we went there not long ago, maybe last summer, to eat so he could get a plastic Ironman toy. I was uncomfortable the whole time. The restaurant was just plain uninviting; it think it was too cold, and the booths were uncomfortable to sit in. The employees seemed nice and helpful, but it just wasn’t the smooth operation I was used to witnessing at McDonalds, the only fast-food place I go when (rarely) we go to one. I remember nothing about the food, so it was apparently unremarkable.

It was also relatively deserted, right at suppertime.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/43 "2010-12-28T22:13:47Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Was this some sort of whoosh on the part of **RealityChuck**? Maybe they’re not hamburgers any more, but something along the lines of “preprocessed pasteurized genuinely artificial quasipseudo mystery meat patties”?

Hm … Maybe it’s because many locations have removed the $1.06 item labeled simply as “Hamburger” from the menu. But this seems a weird criterion. Most of their menu is some kind of hamburger.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/44 "2010-12-28T22:45:24Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> What? Last I checked they sell at least seven different kinds of hamburgers.

Those are all _cheeseburgers_. Hamburgers don’t have cheese on them (and what McDonald’s puts on the burgers is hardly what any sane person would call cheese).

There is their single burger, which is unappetizing. The Big and Tasty, their last actual hamburger with flavor, is no long being sold around me. Since they don’t sell hamburgers, and Wendy’s does, I’m going to Wendy’s (or better yet, Five Guys) when I want a hamburger.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/45 "2010-12-28T22:45:56Z")

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I hate them both.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/46 "2010-12-28T22:46:34Z")

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You don’t have to get the cheese, you know.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/47 "2010-12-28T22:51:20Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Let me guess - I-80, about 5 miles west of I-55? I drive by that one every couple of months.

Nope, I-70 in Marshall; I was coming back from Dayton.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/48 "2010-12-28T22:57:08Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> You don’t have to get the cheese, you know.

That’s what I was going to say. You can order with no cheese. You have to ask but they’ll do it. My roommate is lactose intolerant and he goes to McD’s all the time.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/49 "2010-12-28T22:57:56Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Those are all _cheeseburgers_. Hamburgers don’t have cheese on them (and what McDonald’s puts on the burgers is hardly what any sane person would call cheese).
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> There is their single burger, which is unappetizing. The Big and Tasty, their last actual hamburger with flavor, is no long being sold around me. Since they don’t sell hamburgers, and Wendy’s does, I’m going to Wendy’s (or better yet, Five Guys) when I want a hamburger.

But the Big and Tasty was exactly the same patty and bun as the Quarter Pounder, only with slightly different toppings and no cheese. They can still make it, it just isn’t a menu item.

Your rant makes zero sense to me.

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/50 "2010-12-28T23:02:05Z")

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The Whopper tastes better than McDs burgers, but the patty is too thin. This results in the bun being bigger, which adds calories, so it has more calories than a McD sandwich. It also results in the patty quickly losing heat to the lettuce, tomato and pickles. I consider cheese mandatory on a Whopper because it adds some heat capacity and insulates the patty from the toppings.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/51 "2010-12-29T13:55:07Z")

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Great. I read the whole thread and now I want a Whopper, but it’s 6 AM and they only sell breakfast now!

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/52 "2010-12-29T23:41:00Z")

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I liked Burger King’s jalapeno burgers. Now that they are gone, there is nothing there that I like.

The King is Creepy, like a clown from Stephen King’s childhood.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/53 "2010-12-29T23:48:32Z")

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I don’t eat fast food that often and when I do, I usually patronize a local place or regional chain. That being said, I did like BK’s Angus Burgers the first time they were out. However, they were only available for a limited time and when they were brought back, I noticed they didn’t taste as good–like they changed the recipe or something.

Also, do BK’s flame-broiled burgers taste dry to anybody?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/54 "2010-12-30T00:04:36Z")

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I think BK is dying because their fries and chicken pieces really suck ass now.

I worked at a BK for two years when I was a teenager and despite what you might think if they’re made fresh whoppers are far better than any burger you can get at McDonald’s. If you’re not in drive thru and it’s not busy ask them to make it fresh, it’s really worth the wait.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/55 "2010-12-30T00:08:50Z")

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BK’s secret is that flame grill. It adds a lot of flavor.

I loved Minuteman as a kid because they had flame grilled burgers too. Minuteman used to be the best burger you could get. Now that it’s gone… Burger King is where I go.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/56 "2010-12-30T00:18:15Z")

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Burger King advertises its burgers as being “flame broiled.” Broiling means the heat comes from above. How do you get flames to go downward?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/57 "2010-12-30T00:35:36Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Broiling means the heat comes from above.

“Broil” does not actually carry this connotation.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/58 "2010-12-30T03:09:06Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Burger King advertises its burgers as being “flame broiled.” Broiling means the heat comes from above. How do you get flames to go downward?

You don’t, and you don’t have to. Ever see how a gas stove puts the broiler pan _below_ the oven heating element?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/59 "2010-12-30T03:37:25Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Ever see how a gas stove puts the broiler pan _below_ the oven heating element?

And thus the heating element—and the heat—is _above_ the pan that holds the food.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-burger-king/565560/60 "2010-12-30T05:25:00Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Burger King advertises its burgers as being “flame broiled.” Broiling means the heat comes from above. How do you get flames to go downward?

There are indeed grilled from both directions.

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