# What's wrong with some people?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 17, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549 "2014-10-17T00:29:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lemmytheseal2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lemmytheseal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmytheseal2)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/41 "2014-10-17T18:19:11Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Thank you. Now we know a lot more about you than we did before.

Care to elaborate? I have a problem with unthinking kowtowing before power.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/42 "2014-10-17T18:37:24Z")

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Maybe this isn’t quite the same thing, but we used to be friends with a couple…the wife was a major drama queen. She told us a tree falling against the house had knocked in the front door and smashed her entire thigh, leaving her unable to walk and bruised black and blue. When my wife went over to help and actually saw the leg, she had to ask where the bruise was. Another time, a cat had clawed her daughter _in the eyeball_, causing an emergency room visit. When I was over the next day, the kid had a little red spot on one cheekbone, literally less than an eighth of an inch long, which was dramatically pointed out to me as the injury.

They were otherwise great people, but the drama was tiring.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/43 "2014-10-17T18:38:46Z")

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> [@Lemmytheseal2](#):
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> I have a problem with unthinking kowtowing before power.

Which in your mind equates to allowing the police to enforce the law and to carry their equipment (e.g. guns) in places where this is required of them?

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/44 "2014-10-17T18:53:44Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> There’s a difference in providing closer parking spots for people that have legitimate disabilities which make walking difficult and providing people with closer parking spots because they forgot to take their birth control pills. I would never park in a handicap spot.

Yeah, but there’s a good chance the person may be responsible for their own disability, like the pregnant sluts, so just go for it. I’m with you. It’s disgusting the way some places try to be nice to certain people without being nice to me first. Fuck 'em.

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**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/45 "2014-10-17T18:56:34Z")

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Put me on the list of people who think handicapped spots are great, but all those other specialty spots are bullshit.

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**Author:** ![No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea5d25/32.png) [@No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_umlaut_for_U)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/46 "2014-10-17T19:00:11Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> I don’t think anyone really knows.
> 
> I’m somewhat alarmed at the explosion of peanut allergies (note: peanuts are legumes, not nuts).
> 
> When I was a kid in the 70s, almost no one had food allergies. It was hard to make people understand that eating tree nuts really did make me extremely sick and would land me in the hospital.
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> Now it seems that every other kid is allergic to peanuts, and not just an ingestion allergy, they seem to have serious reactions to being in the same room as a peanut. I can’t imagine the stress on a parent.
> 
> Anyway, one theory is that ppl eat a lot more processed foods now, so kids are exposed to allergens (such as peanut) much earlier than they would’ve been in previous generations.
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> Another theory is the hygiene theory, that we’re so clean our bodies don’t know what to react against and goes on the rampage against things like dog dander and peanuts.
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> But overall, we don’t know.
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> A desensitization process is being tested for peanuts – I hope it’s helpful.
> 
> [/hijack]

Spoken as a person with food allergies, I think there are several factors:

1. Peanut butter sandwiches were poverty food 50-80 years ago. It’s likely those children may have had parasites which dampened the immune responses. Now peanut butter sandwiches are the default food for special snowflakes who won’t eat anything else.
2. Kids just died for no apparent reason 80+ years ago. There was no Benadryl or anything to save a life, even if someone knew what was happening. Hence, they were gone from the gene pool.
3. Shellfish was an extremely rare treat for inlanders until perhaps 50 years ago. Also, shellfish allergies and histamine reactions from slightly spoiled seafood present similarly, IIRC. Same with iodine allergies and seafood allergies.
4. My own hypothesis is that people have GERD more often as weight issues increase, and that the acid associated damages the gut and lets more proteins seep into the blood stream without being totally digested.

And, I know that there was research being done about 20 years ago as to developing an allergen-free peanut. Most people were allergic to a single protein in the legume, and at the time, it seemed a very good idea. It’s an area of research, though, which I have not kept up on.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/47 "2014-10-17T19:01:06Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> Which in your mind equates to allowing the police to enforce the law and to carry their equipment (e.g. guns) in places where this is required of them?

Beat me to it. Yes, this is what I meant.

I am neither rabidly pro- nor anti-police. But if the police are enforcing the law in a given area, the people in that area who might be breaking the law don’t get to tell them not to bring their guns with them. This is not kowtowing to power. It’s respecting civilized behavior, and not feeling entitled to break local laws whenever I want, even those laws I don’t particularly respect.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/48 "2014-10-17T19:03:15Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> You were lucky she was someone easily cowered. As a childfree person, I always park in those baby-on-board or pregnant women spots in protest of the stores given preferential treatment to people because of their reproductive choices. If anyone asks (and I have been asked), I’ll tell them that. Depending on my mood, I may also mention the satisfication it gives me to think about the greater possibilities of a pregnant woman tripping or a free range child being hit by a car because they have to walk a few feet further before walking all over the aisles of a giant supermarket. I quite enjoy the looks of horror that often result.

Reading this response, I’d like to shake your hand.

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**Author:** ![Lemmytheseal2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lemmytheseal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmytheseal2)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/49 "2014-10-17T19:04:12Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> Which in your mind equates to allowing the police to enforce the law and to carry their equipment (e.g. guns) in places where this is required of them?

Yes, including the assumptions that their mission has much to do with enforcing just laws, and that they need be armed in the first place. It might be different in a context where police act as peace officers trained to deescalate situations, rather than an increasingly heavily-armed and militarized (despite decreased crime rates) army of occupation often protecting wealth and privilege. Although the situation wasn’t perfect by any means, police usually played the former role in the not-too-distant past in the US, and they still do in some places. It’s thus entirely plausible to re-imagine and remake the role of security services.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/50 "2014-10-17T19:06:45Z")

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Do I get to tell cops, “We don’t allow badges or neckties here?”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/51 "2014-10-17T19:07:09Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> Reading this response, I’d like to shake your hand.

😃

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/52 "2014-10-17T19:12:03Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> \*\*Depending on my mood, I may also mention the satisfaction it gives me to think about the greater possibilities of a pregnant woman tripping or a free range child being hit by a carbecause they have to walk a few feet further before walking all over the aisles of a giant supermarket. I quite enjoy the looks of horror that often result. \*\*

I’m sorry your life is so bitter.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/53 "2014-10-17T19:15:52Z")

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Speaking of parking spots, why is it that people get so worked up about them? You’ll see people passing dozens of empty spots to hunt or fight over a spot just a few paces away, and often this is at some mega-outlet mall where they’re about to spend a couple of hours walking multiple miles and waiting in multiple lines. But walking an extra hundred or so feet is somehow a big deal.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/54 "2014-10-17T19:20:14Z")

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Eh, I remember a WSJ article from about 15 years ago on horror stories from Park and Forest Rangers.

#1: “There’s so many bugs, why aren’t you people spraying these woods?”

Another one about the two women that walking down a forest trail just minutes before sunset, got maybe half a mile before it got dark, then sat down, called the rangers and refused to budge until someone brought them flashlights. I’d have laughed and hung up.

I remember visiting Mesa Verde back in 1992-ish. To get to one of the kivas you had to hike up and down a rather steep trail with a small amount of climbing. Rather large woman in front of me loudly and angrily demanding that they install escalators. :smack:  
In short, people are nasty, stupid, selfish little cunts and it is often amazing that we manage to have any kind of functioning society at all.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/55 "2014-10-17T19:25:17Z")

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> [@chimera](#):
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> in short, people are nasty, stupid, selfish little cunts and it is often amazing that we manage to have any kind of functioning society at all.

qft 😃

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/56 "2014-10-17T19:26:05Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> When I was a kid in the 70s, almost no one had food allergies. It was hard to make people understand that eating tree nuts really did make me extremely sick and would land me in the hospital.
> 
> Now it seems that every other kid is allergic to peanuts, and not just an ingestion allergy, they seem to have serious reactions to being in the same room as a peanut.

Actually, food allergies were somewhat common then, but the symptoms were not as severe and the foods were less common- shellfish is a common allergen.

1-4% of Americans have a peanut or tree nut allergy.  
[http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(03)02026-8/abstract?cc=y](http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(03)02026-8/abstract?cc=y)  
[http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(10)00575-0/abstract](http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(10)00575-0/abstract)

“Allergy to peanuts and tree nuts (TNs) is the leading cause of fatal allergic reactions in the United States, and the prevalence appears to be increasing.”

Causes could be application of peanut oil to skin during early years or soy-milk formulae.

[http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa013536#t=articleResults](http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa013536#t=articleResults)

- “It is likely that children with allergy to cow’s milk or with eczema are at increased risk for food allergies, and soy consumption in infancy is increased in response to these atopic disorders…In contrast, analysis of data on creams applied to the infant’s skin revealed that 84 percent of the children who were allergic to peanuts and 91 percent of those with a positive peanut-challenge test had been exposed to creams containing peanut oil during the first six months of life …The apparent recent increase in the prevalence of peanut allergy has been difficult to explain, although it parallels an overall increase in allergic diseases of childhood.5 We found that, in a cohort of preschool children, peanut allergy proved by double-blind, placebo-controlled food challenge had important associations, which persisted after adjustment for other factors, with a family history of peanut allergy, consumption of soy by the infant, early onset of eczema, other rashes with oozing and crusting, and exposure to topical preparations containing peanut oil.”\*

Apparently it could be that kids get rashes, rashes are treated with salve with peanut oil, this leads to allergy?

> **[Unexpected Sources of Peanut Allergy | Science News](https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/food-thought/unexpected-sources-peanut-allergy)**
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> Attention new moms: Some lotions and creams for soothing scaly or irritated skin run the risk of triggering immune reactions in your infant that could lead to a serious food allergy months later. Or so conclude the authors of a new study in England....

But note again- only about 1% of kids really have a significant peanut allergy.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/57 "2014-10-17T19:45:19Z")

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I’m certainly wondering what’s wrong with \*\*ZPG Zealot \*\* now.

> [@Lemmytheseal2](#):
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> I don’t see what the problem is with either one of these

I presume the Occupy people were in a city park and not their private residence? So what makes you think they are in any position to tell city employees (e.g. “cops”) what equipment they can or cannot take onto city property in execution of their duties?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/58 "2014-10-17T19:46:02Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’m sorry your life is so bitter.

Don’t be. Her life isn’t bitter. Her life is wonderous and joyous and it spills over onto this board and brings a smile to my face everytime I read one of her posts.

> [@voltaire](#):
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> Speaking of parking spots, why is it that people get so worked up about them? You’ll see people passing dozens of empty spots to hunt or fight over a spot just a few paces away, and often this is at some mega-outlet mall where they’re about to spend a couple of hours walking multiple miles and waiting in multiple lines. But walking an extra hundred or so feet is somehow a big deal.

People are idiots.  
But I do agree about the special parking spots. That is bullshit. I deliberately park in those spots and then when I get out of the car I loudly announce to the world that I don’t have a handicap and nor am I pregnant and if people don’t like it they can go fuck a cactus. Once in a while some schmo will come up and try to protest but I just stare them down until they back down and then I stalk them around the store taking every chance I can to stare them down some more.

A couple of times the cops have shown up but I just stare at them and tell them their badges and guns have no authority here and they should just bugger off. And like the little bitches that they are they do because they know not to mess with me.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/59 "2014-10-17T19:55:00Z")

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> [@Lemmytheseal2](#):
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> Yes, including the assumptions that their mission has much to do with enforcing just laws, and that they need be armed in the first place. It might be different in a context where police act as peace officers trained to deescalate situations, rather than an increasingly heavily-armed and militarized (despite decreased crime rates) army of occupation often protecting wealth and privilege. Although the situation wasn’t perfect by any means, police usually played the former role in the not-too-distant past in the US, and they still do in some places. It’s thus entirely plausible to re-imagine and remake the role of security services.

yeah, but sitting around in a **public** park trying to tell **uniformed** police officers to leave because you “don’t allow guns here” is really clueless. And typical of your average young slacktivist.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-some-people/701549/60 "2014-10-17T20:08:57Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> slacktivist.

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