# What's wrong with the birthers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 14, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269 "2011-02-14T02:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269/161 "2011-02-17T01:19:55Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > What the hell are you talking about? You must see only what you want to see, because no rational, unbiased observer could reach the conclusion that tax protesters were “virtually unknown” prior to Obama inauguration. Okay, I think I understand that you are talking about a strict subset set of tax protesters who are essentially “tax-deniers”. Comparatively speaking these guys have always just been a small nut in the bag of fringe movements. I was talking about the entire set including Tea Partiers whose overall numbers did in fact explode after Obama’s inauguration. > [@](#): > > Those idiots have LONG been around, with a motive that has NOTHING to do with race. Even talking about the fringer tax-deniers, I still think you are on thin ground repeating that their motive has nothing to do with race. What they have in common with the birthers is that they believe they’ve found a sound technical issue which they can flog instead of openly identifying as racists. And taxes are a heavily racially loaded issue. You are 100% wrong in denying it. Many base their arguments on whether the moochers are getting too much, or the fat cats are keeping too much, falling neatly on racial lines. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269/162 "2011-02-17T02:41:45Z")
Back to the point. Birthers believe Obama i not a legal president because they want to, desperately. The facts have been made clear. But they are trying to find a way to justify their hatred. Here’s Obamas birth certificate. …not good enough heres the newspaper birth notices…Not good enough heres the doctors attesting to the birth… not good enough here’s the head of the registration office attesting the birth… not good enough here’s the elected officials saying case closed…not good enough It is simple. They will accept nothing. Fuck them they do not matter. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269/163 "2011-02-17T17:28:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Re: Your three sentences > > Pathetic. C’mon. Saying that Obama is not a NBC because the annexation of Hawaii was illegal is way better that the standard Certificate of Live Birth =/= birth certificate. I should at least get a couple points for creativity. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269/164 "2011-02-17T17:34:20Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > C’mon. Saying that Obama is not a NBC because the annexation of Hawaii was illegal is way better that the standard Certificate of Live Birth =/= birth certificate. I should at least get a couple points for creativity. you would get more points for creativity by taking a large lump of Play-Doh, putting your fist into the middle of it and calling it an ash tray. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-wrong-with-the-birthers/571269.md?page=8)