# What's your Erdos Number?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 31, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790 "2005-10-31T21:22:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/1 "2005-10-31T21:22:51Z")

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I’m starting to get into my research (graph algorithms) and was discussing with my advisor small-world graphs. Naturally, Erdos numbers came up, and she mentioned an Erdos number of 3. One of my math profs has a 2 and there’s a person in the department with a 1, though I’m not sure if they’re in discrete mathematics or not.

So, what’s your Erdos Number? Are there any Erdos numbers of 1 on the SDMB (and if so do you want to publish? :D)?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/2 "2005-10-31T21:27:43Z")

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I looked this up once – I had to contact a group that had this stuff tabulated and wait for a reply – but I don’t recall my number. Unfortunately, it’s not like your Kevin Bacon number. My Erdos number is finite, but not low – I have papers in common with at least two others who have a huge number of connections, so I’m likely connected through more than one path.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/3 "2005-10-31T21:30:42Z")

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He presented a paper at the university I attended, several years after I graduated. And one of the professors was working on a paper with him, but I never took one of his classes. And I’m guessing that means my Erdos number approaches infinity.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/4 "2005-10-31T21:31:05Z")

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Mine is 4.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/5 "2005-10-31T21:51:24Z")

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One of my graduate committee members has an Erdos number of 3. As I have published a (non-mathematical) paper with him, my Erdos number is 4.

Here’s an easy way to compute an Erdos number: [http://www.ams.org/msnmain/cgd/index.html](http://www.ams.org/msnmain/cgd/index.html)

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/6 "2005-10-31T22:09:49Z")

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That site requires some sort of password, **Terminus Est**.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/7 "2005-10-31T22:12:33Z")

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Oh, sorry. I must have been given access based on my Cornell IP.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/8 "2005-10-31T22:38:46Z")

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3

(And I’m in CS, not Math.)

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/9 "2005-10-31T23:25:15Z")

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I thought the thread title referred to [Irv Erdos](http://www.nctimes.com/news/columnists/erdos).

The only way I’d have an Erdos # is if it cross-referenced with the IMDB.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/10 "2005-10-31T23:46:25Z")

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Uh…

So, just what is an Erdos number?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/11 "2005-10-31T23:56:08Z")

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> [@Strinka](#):
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> Uh…
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> So, just what is an Erdos number?

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Maybe it’s like your rank in the stonecutters?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/12 "2005-11-01T00:01:51Z")

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> [@Strinka](#):
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> Uh…
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> So, just what is an Erdos number?

Paul Erdos was a renouned mathematician and the author of many papers in the field. The Erdos Number is similar to the Kevin Bacon number: if you coauthored a paper with Erdos, your number is 1. If you coauthored a paper with someone with an Erdos number of 1, your number is 2, etc.

The most famous non-mathemetician with an Erdos number of 1 is Hank Aaron. 😉

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/13 "2005-11-01T00:35:35Z")

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Can Erdos numbers be by inheritance? If so, I have an Erdos number of 1 from my maternal grandfather, along with some hilarious Erdos anecdotes (“I have just proofed a sheorem… what sheorem have you just proofed?”)

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/14 "2005-11-01T00:41:54Z")

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Ah. Thanks. Mine is infinite then.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/15 "2005-11-01T00:58:24Z")

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[The Erdos Number Project](http://www.oakland.edu/enp/)  
I haven’t ever published anything, but I have taken classes from at least one guy with Erdos number 1.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/16 "2005-11-01T03:49:14Z")

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My Erdos number is 4.

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Actually, I’ve heard that Erdos (don’t know how to write the appropriate diacritic) numbers are computed only drawing from papers published by two authors. For example, if you publish a paper with someone whose Erdos number is n, you’ll get an Erdos number of n+1 if you and this person are the only authors, but if there are three or more authors, this paper will not count towards your Erdos number. There are also _extended Erdos numbers_ which, as you’d expect, are computed taking into account any joint paper with other authors, regardless of their number.

I personally might have a finite Erdos number, but I don’t know what it is, and it is probably rather high anyway. “High” is relative: it is estimated that a very large majority of people who have a finite Erdos number actually have it smaller than 15.

This said, can someone tell me what paper Hank Aaron published jointly with Paul Erdos? And maybe send me a link to it, if it is possible?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/18 "2005-11-01T06:04:38Z")

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> [@severus](#):
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> This said, can someone tell me what paper Hank Aaron published jointly with Paul Erdos? And maybe send me a link to it, if it is possible?

It’s generally a joke…at an event (I think it was at Emory University, IIRC), Paul Erdos and Henry Aaron signed the same baseball, so you could say they “co-published” and thus Aaron has an Erdos number of 1.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/19 "2005-11-01T12:49:27Z")

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severus writes:

\> Actually, I’ve heard that Erdos (don’t know how to write the appropriate  
\> diacritic) numbers are computed only drawing from papers published by two  
\> authors.

I’ve never heard that before. Every description of how the Erdos number works I’ve heard up to now says that you can connect via any co-authored paper, regardless of the number of co-authors. I just checked the only two books I own that might speak to this issue, the two biographies of Erdos (yes, there are two biographies of Erdos), and they both say that any co-authored paper is O.K., regardless of the number of co-authors.

\> “High” is relative: it is estimated that a very large majority of people who have  
\> a finite Erdos number actually have it smaller than 15.

Indeed, one of the biographies claims that it’s rare to have a (finite) Erdos number over 7.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-erdos-number/328790/20 "2005-11-01T12:53:19Z")

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So exactly what makes this Erdos fellow so important?

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