# What's your favorite celebrity rumor (that does not involve Richard Gere or Rod Stewart)?

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I always took that to mean that there are people who would be so vain that they think the song is about them, even though it’s not.

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> [@solost](#):
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> _You’re so vain_  
> _You probably think this song is about you_
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> _ **Isn’t** _ the song “about you”? Whoever the “you” is? Like, every single line of it?

Yep, it’s an ironic joke.

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Wasn’t there a rumor that Mick Jagger’s wife found him in bed with David Bowie?

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“Dancing in the ~~streets~~ sheets?”

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wasn’t there a rumor that Mick Jagger’s wife found him in bed with David Bowie?

I thought that was true, just like James Dean and Marlon Brando (and Richard Pryor and Marlon Brando; Marlon slept around)

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I think that that irony is part of the point of the song. But if it is actually based on multiple individuals, it could still be true.

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I thought that was true, just like James Dean and Marlon Brando (and Richard Pryor and Marlon Brando; Marlon slept around)

Huh, first I’ve heard that Brando was gay (or bi).

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > That Florence Henderson and Barry Williams of _The Brady Bunch_ had an affair. They were mother and son on the show; she, about 20 years older than he.
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> I thought that one was true.

According to Barry Williams in his book _Growing Up Brady_, he had a huge crush on Henderson, and in his mind, it was a real date, or at least started out that way; she was aware of his crush, and used the “date” to let him down easy.

Eventually the crush subsided, and they settled into a good working relationship, where she did “mother” him just a little.

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> I always took that to mean that there are people who would be so vain that they think the song is about them, even though it’s not.

Well, if it’s actually about four people, who each think the WHOLE song is about them, because vain people aren’t so good at sharing, maybe, you get a 4-way fight of four guys shouting at one another “No, it’s ME!” “It’s about ME!” “ME!” “ME!”

That’s pretty vain.

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Jack Donaghy: “The song ‘You’re So Vain’ was written… **by** me.”

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> How about Led Zeppelin’s mud shark incident at the Edgewater Inn in Seattle?

I remember reading about that in _[Hammer of the Gods](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_of_the_Gods_(book))_. I always thought it was a little fishy.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Huh, first I’ve heard that Brando was gay (or bi).

There’s a photo purporting to show Brando fellating Wally Cox. Brandi’s ear is cropped out of the margin, making certain identification impossible.

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It is a fact that Wally Cox and Brando were very close friends. No idea whether or not there was a gay relationship. IIRC Cox’s on camera demeanor was misleading, he was in fact a macho kind of guy. Smallish, but still.

> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> There’s a photo purporting to show Brando fellating Wally Cox. Brandi’s ear is cropped out of the margin, making certain identification impossible.

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Vince Neil was definitely in a bad car accident, but he wasn’t replaced by a body double.

But, he did double in body.

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Also, there were plenty of rumors about Brando and Jack Nicholson, who lived next door to each other, which some suggested wasn’t a coincidence.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wasn’t there a rumor that Mick Jagger’s wife found him in bed with David Bowie?

The way I heard the rumor was Mich wrote a song about a woman “I met while we were both laying the same bloke.” And separately, that “Angie” was about Angela Bowie. Put the two rumors together and …they fit!

And as for “you probably think this song is about you”, it isn’t ironic, it just means that said person is so vain, he thinks _everything_ is about him. Why would this song be about “you”? But, this time, he is right,

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Sad but true. He can’t sing any more, either.

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I’ve also had the impression that Marlon Brando was pansexual.

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That Johnny Carson is as a superior officer who commanded Ed McMahon in WWII. While it’s true that one outranked the other (I think McMahon was the superior officer), they served thousands of miles apart and doubtless were never in the same country together.

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Not really rumors but Hulk Hogan has told many outright lies over the years:

He claimed that both Metallica and The Rolling Stones wanted him as their bass player.

He was offered him the lead role in The Wrestler three times. Hogan claims he turned it down because “he didn’t deserve it”. the director denies that Hogan was ever even considered for the role.

He partied with John Belushi after WrestleMania II in 1986. Belushi died in 1982.

He was the first choice for The George Foreman Grill but he missed the phone call and the company went with Foreman instead.

Both Cher and Madonna wanted to date him but he turned them down.

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Both Lucy Lawless and Jennifer Aniston were subject to a phenomenon I never understood: any time either of them was in the public eye again (long after _Xena_ & _Friends_ were over), articles and teasers started to pop up saying one or the other was pregnant.

The Aniston ones slowed down after she turned 50, but there was one tumbling around about Lawless when her current TV show, _My Life Is Murder_, was renewed for a second season.

I never understood what underpinned these rumors; there was so many, it seemed that there must be some public desire for them to have a baby. Weird.

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