# whats your guys view on Steve Mcqueen
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 26, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663 "2015-11-26T20:19:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/42 "2015-11-28T18:44:10Z")
> [@A.Church](#):
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> I’ve seen plenty of responses. Steve McQueen was a movie star. Whatever fake Steve McQueen the OP is talking about, and not in the thread title, is irrelevant.
Sign me up for this team!
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/43 "2015-11-28T19:10:46Z")
> [@A.Church](#):
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> I’ve seen plenty of responses. Steve McQueen was a movie star. Whatever fake Steve McQueen the OP is talking about, and not in the thread title, is irrelevant.
The movie star’s first name is actually Terence.So I guess he’s the real fake Steve McQueen after all!
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/44 "2015-11-28T19:37:54Z")
I don’t know. I think I’d rather be _called_ a dick outright than have someone imply that I’m unable to attain dickhood despite efforts to do so. (My cleverness is presumed.)
I have no opinion on McQueen the director. Liked McQueen the actor in The Great Escape. He kind of looks like Damien Lewis’ tougher father.
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### Author:  [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/45 "2015-11-28T19:46:54Z")
> [@amanset](#):
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> His OP referred to directing. The Steve McQueen you referred to was not a director, he was an actor.
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> Stop trying to be a clever dick, you’re failing.
Yeah, but when some latter-day knucklehead essentially takes the name of a film great, he’s going to run into this kind of thing, no matter how talented he may be. It’s the professional equivalent of clickbait; “Steve McQueen? What? Oh, that British guy.” But people click anyway.
It’s why[Michael-Hakim Jordan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael-Hakim_Jordan)put the “Hakim” into his professional name.
It’s why if I was to publish any sort of IT/computing related or business related paper or book, I’d probably either go by my middle name, or at the very least, put my middle initial in- there are people with my (uncommon enough) full name publishing things in both those categories.
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/46 "2015-11-28T19:52:38Z")
> [@bump](#):
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> Yeah, but when some latter-day knucklehead essentially takes the name of a film great, he’s going to run into this kind of thing, no matter how talented he may be.
His given name is Steven Rodney McQueen. How do you figure he “took” that name? What else is he supposed to go by?
And calling a black man a knucklehead? :dubious:
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### Author:  [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/47 "2015-11-28T19:59:01Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> His given name is Steven Rodney McQueen. How do you figure he “took” that name? What else is he supposed to go by?
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> And calling a black man a knucklehead? :dubious:
Why cant you call a black man, or any man, a knucklehead? And he is one. He could have simply called himself Steven or Stephan to avoid confusion.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/48 "2015-11-28T20:00:01Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> And calling a black man a knucklehead? :dubious:
Seriously? “Knucklehead” has a racial element now?
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/49 "2015-11-28T20:06:13Z")
> [@madsircool](#):
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> Why cant you call a black man, or any man, a knucklehead? And he is one. He could have simply called himself Steven or Stephan to avoid confusion.
What confusion could there possibly be when talking about Steve McQueen in the present tense? Unless you’re talking about the awful Sheryl Crow song about the dead dude, but that’s hopefully never the case.
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Seriously? “Knucklehead” has a racial element now?
After the Richard Sherman “thug” fiasco a couple years ago, yes. Low-key dog whistle. It’s usually safe but will receive side-eye from me in a thread like this.
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### Author:  [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/50 "2015-11-28T20:17:15Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> What confusion could there possibly be when talking about Steve McQueen in the present tense? Unless you’re talking about the awful Sheryl Crow song about the dead dude, but that’s hopefully never the case.
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> After the Richard Sherman “thug” fiasco a couple years ago, yes. Low-key dog whistle. It’s usually safe but will receive side-eye from me in a thread like this.
Please. Before you brought it up I doubt anyone knew his race. Nor cared.
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/51 "2015-11-28T20:23:39Z")
That’s because no one is actually talking about the subject of the thread, which was obvious if you read the OP in addition to the title, director Steve McQueen. In post 20, I mentioned specifically that I was glad to see a black director win the Oscar and hope to see more minority perspectives behind camera.
So yes, I know and care that he’s black and will be mildly skeptical whenever a black person is called a knucklehead, probably without malice in this case, but I don’t really care.
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/52 "2015-11-28T21:59:57Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> What confusion could there possibly be when talking about Steve McQueen in the present tense? Unless you’re talking about the awful Sheryl Crow song about the dead dude, but that’s hopefully never the case.
Maybe David Bowie should go by his given name, David Jones. And Michael Keaton should use his real last name, Douglas. No possibility of confusion there, right?
I was confused. I never knew that there is a present-day director named Steve McQueen before I saw this thread.
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### Author:  [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/53 "2015-11-28T22:13:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Geez, touchy…
No joke. He’s probably defensive about the Bullitt movie.
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/54 "2015-11-28T22:14:58Z")
> [@cochrane](#):
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> Maybe David Bowie should go by his given name, David Jones. And Michael Keaton should use his real last name, Douglas. No possibility of confusion there, right?
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> I was confused. I never knew that there is a present-day director named Steve McQueen before I saw this thread.
Well hey you learned something new!
And so what? The actor has been dead for 35 years and as far as I know David Bowie and Michael Keaton (and Madonna, Jon Stewart, and almost everyone else currently in show business who doesn’t go by their government name) are still alive. I’m not gonna confuse them for another David Bowie, et al. who died before I was even born. It’s pedantic. Talking about the living guy? It’s the director. Talking about _Bullitt_? It’s the actor. I can’t believe I let myself get stuck into arguing this, but here we are. Fantastic OP.
Anyway, in this thread about the director, once again, I’ve seen one of his movies, liked it, and while I’m not interested in watching a movie about slavery (but my mind may change on that), I would like to see more of his work.
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### Author:  [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/55 "2015-11-28T22:15:19Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> That’s because no one is actually talking about the subject of the thread…
This is a first!
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/56 "2015-11-28T22:26:11Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> This is a first!
One might call this thread a…_Towering Inferno_. /Horatio Caine
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/57 "2015-11-28T22:43:12Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> Well hey you learned something new!
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> And so what? The actor has been dead for 35 years and as far as I know David Bowie and Michael Keaton (and Madonna, Jon Stewart, and almost everyone else currently in show business who doesn’t go by their government name) are still alive. I’m not gonna confuse them for another David Bowie, et al. who died before I was even born. It’s pedantic. Talking about the living guy? It’s the director. Talking about _Bullitt_? It’s the actor. I can’t believe I let myself get stuck into arguing this, but here we are. Fantastic OP.
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> Anyway, in this thread about the director, once again, I’ve seen one of his movies, liked it, and while I’m not interested in watching a movie about slavery (but my mind may change on that), I would like to see more of his work.
My point was, David Bowie and Michael Keaton did change their names in order to avoid being confused for someone else who had the same name. There is no other famous person named Madonna (which is her given name), as far as I know, but there was another famous David Jones (now deceased, by the way ) and another famous Michael Douglas. Bowie changed his name so as not to be confused with the Monkee and Keaton changed his so as not to be mistaken for Kirk Douglas’ son. Way to let the point go completely over your head.
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/58 "2015-11-28T22:46:29Z")
> [@cochrane](#):
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> My point was, David Bowie and Michael Keaton did change their names in order to avoid being confused for someone else who had the same name. There is no other famous person named Madonna, which is her given name, as far as I know, but there was another famous David Jones (now deceased, by the way ) and another famous Michael Douglas. Bowie changed his name so as not to be confused with the Monkee and Keaton changed his so as not to be mistaken for Kirk Douglas’ son. Way to let the point go completely over your head.
Cool. Do you have any jokes now? I think we all need a great escape from this topic.
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### Author:  [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/59 "2015-11-28T22:47:49Z")
> [@piepiepie](#):
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> Cool. Do you have any jokes now? I think we all need a great escape from this topic.
Everything you posted in this thread.
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### Author:  [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/60 "2015-11-28T22:51:07Z")
Ohhhh so edgy.
I wonder if Michael Fassbender will be a recurring actor in Steve McQueen films. Apparently his next one will be biopic on Paul Robeson. I’m interested in that.
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### Author:  [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-guys-view-on-steve-mcqueen/738663/61 "2015-11-28T22:57:50Z")
> [@digs](#):
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> Sorry, my only ‘view on him’ is that he should really go by “Stephen” or S. David McQueen to avoid confusion.
Well, Steve’s grandson already goes by Steven, so Stephen might still be confusing.
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