# What's your opinion on "Darling Lili", an old American movie? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [December 12, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403 "2022-12-12T17:37:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/41 "2022-12-12T19:24:26Z")
_ **Oblomov** _ literally put me to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/42 "2022-12-12T19:27:21Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > “The African Queen” (1951) with Bogart and Hepburn is a fabulous movie, and not having any sex in it had nothing to do with how good it was. Oh, there was sex there. Just not explicitly shown. > [@Roman67](#): > > I’ve already explained my position in a set of sentences concerning old movies. As for sex, drugs, and violence, I don’t think that their artistic effect is great, just because all these things are so common, known, trite that there’s no need in portraying them on the screen. Art must reflect the most interesting, the most important moments of life. And sometimes the “most important moments of life” _involve_ sex, drugs and violence. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/43 "2022-12-12T19:28:13Z")
They often have for _me_. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/44 "2022-12-12T19:30:03Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > Art must reflect the most interesting, the most important moments of life. I’ll bet you’d love the Hallmark Channel. 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/45 "2022-12-12T19:39:47Z")
I just went to Wikipedia and read the plot summary of the movie. It sounds like it could be a good movie. I have a lot of respect for Julie Andrews. I’ve never heard of it, so I don’t know what provider carries it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/46 "2022-12-12T19:41:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They often have for _me_. TMI Alert! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Roman67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roman67/32/12809_2.png) [@Roman67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roman67)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/47 "2022-12-12T19:44:56Z")
If the police tries to ban something, it means that the banned thing is socially important, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/48 "2022-12-12T19:45:05Z")
Watch for it on TCM. I’m sure they show it occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![Roman67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roman67/32/12809_2.png) [@Roman67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roman67)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/49 "2022-12-12T19:46:06Z")
Quite agree. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/50 "2022-12-12T19:46:11Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > If the police tries to ban something, it means that the banned thong is socially important, isn’t it? I’m all in favor of banning thongs! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/51 "2022-12-12T19:49:46Z")
My granddad had an old saying that I think very much applies to the topic of movies: “One man’s meat is another man’s poison.” When it is all said and done, a “good movie” is one we really enjoyed. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/52 "2022-12-12T19:50:03Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > If the police tries to ban something, it means that the banned thong is socially important, isn’t it? From the standpoint of American politicians, and American society, at that point in time, largely being strongly anti-Communist, and looking to ban things which painted Communism in an attractive or positive light, yes, sure. It still doesn’t mean that American filmmakers, creating films for an American audience, saw “their main rival in terms of cinema” as filmmakers in the Soviet Union, as you indicate in your post #12. ---
**Author:** ![Roman67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roman67/32/12809_2.png) [@Roman67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roman67)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/53 "2022-12-12T19:51:08Z")
By the way, Katherine Hepburn herself was against sex on the screen because of its artificiality. Yeah. sometimes vitally importants parts of life include sex, drugs, and violence, but it doesn’t mean that it’s necessary that the actors should show tits, imitate frictions and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/54 "2022-12-12T19:54:36Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > My granddad had an old saying that I think very much applies to the topic of movies: “One man’s meat is another man’s poison.” Mom was a historian. She always said “One man’s Mede is another man’s Persian.” > [@Roman67](#): > > Yeah. sometimes vitally importants parts of life include sex, drugs, and violence, but it doesn’t mean that it’s necessary that the actors should show tits, imitate frictions and stuff. OK, that’s a wrap! The Authority On Everything has spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done. ---
**Author:** ![Roman67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roman67/32/12809_2.png) [@Roman67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roman67)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/55 "2022-12-12T19:55:41Z")
If they hadn’t regard the Soviets as their main rival in cinema, the Soviet cinema would have conquered American filmgoers, using all the possible crevices. As is known, two systems tried to battle past their rival in all the aspects, including culture. As for Maxim, if this movie had been weak, there wouldn’t have been the ballyhoo. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/56 "2022-12-12T19:55:56Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > Yeah. sometimes vitally importants parts of life include sex, drugs, and violence, but it doesn’t mean that it’s necessary that the actors should show tits, imitate frictions and stuff. It should probably be noted for the OP, whom, I suspect, is not American, that in the “golden age of cinema,” explicit sex, nudity, and graphic violence were absent from most American films, due to the “Hays Code,” which the major studios all followed. > **[Hays Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code)** > > The Motion Picture Production Code was a set of industry guidelines for the self-censorship of content that was applied to most motion pictures released by major studios in the United States from 1934 to 1968. It is also popularly known as the Hays Code, after Will H. Hays, president of the Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America (MPPDA) from 1922 to 1945. Under Hays's leadership, the MPPDA, later the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and the Motion Picture Association... ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/57 "2022-12-12T19:56:44Z")
I thought it was a bit of mindless fluff, but the fact that it was badly promoted probably killed any chance it had. The trailer for the film was just a series of stills showing Julie Andrews dancing on stage, with a voiceover naming a handful of stars…but not a smidgen of plotline. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/58 "2022-12-12T19:58:15Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > If they hadn’t regard the Soviets as their main rival in cinema, the Soviet cinema would have conquered American filmgoers, using all the possible crevices. Show us even one quote, from an American source, that indicates that the U.S. film studios **ever** regarded the Soviet film industry as “their main rival.” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/59 "2022-12-12T19:58:40Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > If they hadn’t regard the Soviets as their main rival in cinema, the Soviet cinema would have conquered American filmgoers, using all the possible crevices. Bwa-ha-ha!!! Pull the other one, comrade. It’s got bells on. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403/60 "2022-12-12T20:00:48Z")
> [@Roman67](#): > > Soviet cinema would have conquered American filmgoers, using all the possible crevices. Yes, American audiences would have flocked to the movies to watch stories about factory workers and peasants being transformed into revolutionaries. 🥺 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-opinion-on-darling-lili-an-old-american-movie/976403.md?page=4)