# What's your perfect grunge jam? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896 "2014-03-30T15:03:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896/41 "2014-04-04T13:53:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [Man In the Box](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU&feature=kp) by Alice In Chains. > > And, for someone not from the Seattle area, Puddle of Mudd’s [“She Hates Me”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE4CVhVkhw&feature=kp), even though Wiki calls them “post-grunge.” It’s interesting to see here what people consider grunge. I guess my definition is a bit narrower. To me, “She Hates Me” has more in common with California pop-punk than grunge. The melodies definitely are too “happy” to be grunge, the quality of the lyrics is teenage pop, etc. Then again, something like their “Control” gets a little closer to the feel of grunge, although that also doesn’t sound quite like grunge to me, either, but more modern, a bit more like, say, I dunno, Nickelback or even Foo Fighters. I guess that’s where the “post-grunge” label comes from, although I’m not familiar with it. I’m almost a little surprised no one mentioned Smashing Pumpkins yet. They’re a band that often gets lopped into grunge (and one of my favorite rock acts, period), but they also exist outside of grunge in my own musical headspace. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896/42 "2014-04-04T13:59:49Z")
To me, when it comes to grunge, I’m reminded of what Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said about obscenity in [Jacobellis V Ohio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobellis_v._Ohio): > [@](#): > > I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description [“hard-core pornography”]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. **But I know it when I see it** , and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. [Emphasis added.] ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896/43 "2014-04-04T14:25:55Z")
Yeah, that’s more- or-less the same for me. I can’t exactly quantify it, either. “She Hates Me” reminds me of an Offspring song which, to me, falls firmly in the “not grunge” category. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896/44 "2014-04-04T14:38:33Z")
Lots of good choices here but nothing from the boys from Ellensburg, Screaming Trees. I think Dust is a beautiful album and my favorite. But for grunge, I’ll go with Uncle Anesthesia (the song and album). Man, I love Lanegan. With ST, solo, w/ Isobel Campbell, dropping in with QOTSA, etc. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896/45 "2014-04-04T16:21:01Z")
Oh, I’d definitely have given the Screaming Trees a nod if I picked out more than one song. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-perfect-grunge-jam/684896.md?page=2)