# What's your solution to a million unwanted pregnacies occurring as a result of protected sex? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 26, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156 "2009-10-26T10:14:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/281 "2009-10-29T19:06:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not enough to respect women’s decisions about their own bodies. Well, yeah, but _saying_ you care is as good as for-real caring, and you don’t have to waste your time by _doing_ anything. Throughout this thread, **SmartAlx** has been paying lipservice to the idea of reducing unwanted pregnancies, but he’s opposed to all methods that don’t make people feel guilty enough. The anti-abortion lobby has had that problem for decades: it’s about enforcing morality, not helping anybody, so they’ve accomplished little other than militarizing a segment of the population and alienating people who wanted to find other methods to reduce unwanted pregnancies. (I know I’m preaching to the choir here.) It’s very funny that **SmartAlx** thinks he is being assaulted by immoral _Girls Gone Wild_ ads. The things are on cable TV very late at night. They are on those networks at those hours because most people don’t want to see them. You can avoid them by watching a DVD, reading a book, or a million other things, not the least of which is going to sleep. You have to deliberately seek out the channels that run the ads at the times they air in order to see them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/282 "2009-10-29T19:43:17Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > You are opposed to sex in any form except for procreation within a marriage, aren’t you? > > Absolutely not! As i said, I’m anti-Catholic. So is Jack Chick. The second does not make the first inevitable. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/283 "2009-10-29T21:32:00Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > A misconception based on an erroneous publication from a pro-abstinence group. See [here](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20061204-9999-1m4letter.html): > > This turned out to be a misrepresentation of [Dr. Turner’s](http://rebecca.turner.socialpsychology.org/) study: > > Off topic or not, just thought you might appreciate being corrected. Don’t hold your breath - he’s shown no interest in having reality intruding on his opinions prior to this point. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/284 "2009-10-29T22:10:07Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > Yes, you could. 5 out of every 1000 men who have had a vasectomy do get a woman pregnant. I’ve got one too, and my wife is well past menopause. Should I go out and buy some condoms, oh wise one? :rolleyes: BTW, 40 years ago we didn’t have Girls Go Wild ads, but we had Goldie Hawn dancing in a bikini on Laugh-In, and we had lingerie ads in the Times Magazine. We also didn’t have parental controls for TVs (not that anyone uses them.) If you think we were less interested in sex in college because we went before Three’s Company went on the air, you’re nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/285 "2009-10-30T02:16:16Z")
**SmartAlx** -You never replied to my proposal that we teach Buddhism to kids to kill their interest in sex. What if it were successful in achieving the results you desire? It is a hypothetical proposition I suppose, but not entirely far-fetched. Assume (just for argument) it’d work because it gets to the point in a hurry instead of presenting the kind of contradictions a 12-year-old can see through (i.e. a mass-murdering, all-loving God who created a 4-billion-year-old Earth 6000 years ago). If teaching Buddhism were effective, would you support the method? If not, why not? Before you say, ‘I thought that was a joke’, recall that your position is that ‘the only thing that can save us’ is imposing your views of sexuality on the entire American population. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/286 "2009-11-01T00:23:34Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > And I might respond, "who the #### are YOU to force your sexually active lifestyle on me? I don’t want to be exposed to even one second of a girls gone wild commercial on my TV at night. They have these things called “V-Chips”. You can block the channels out you don’t want to see. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/287 "2009-11-01T01:23:39Z")
[quote=“SmartAlx, post:218, topic:515156”] Free speech is not protected when it hurts other people, nor should it be.[/QUOT] Your comments hurt my feelings. You should go to prison for writing them. > [@](#): > > Whatever I am doing, I am not actually **ACTIVELY** hurting people. The casual attitude towards sex IS. Nobody in the entire history of the world has ever been hurt by a casual attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/288 "2009-11-01T01:42:25Z")
I found leisure suits to be very hurtful. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/289 "2009-11-01T01:49:13Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > They have these things called “V-Chips”. You can block the channels out you don’t want to see. Ned Flanders: Sure doodily-do. Over 230 channels locked out! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/290 "2009-11-01T01:50:41Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I found leisure suits to be very hurtful. Perhaps you needed some talc. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SmartAlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlx)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/291 "2009-11-02T06:24:09Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > They have these things called “V-Chips”. You can block the channels out you don’t want to see. But I like Comedy Central and the SciFi channel. What’s wrong with those channels? They showed a girls gone wild commercial at around 3pm today on SciFi. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SmartAlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlx)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/292 "2009-11-02T06:27:16Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Your comments hurt my feelings. You should go to prison for writing them. Well you go shout fire in a movie theater and try to defend yourself with your first amendment rights after you get arrested. > [@](#): > > Nobody in the entire history of the world has ever been hurt by a casual attitude. Uh, yeah. And that is why America decided not to fight in WWII… ? ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/293 "2009-11-02T07:53:20Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > And that is why America decided not to fight in WWII… ? ??? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/294 "2009-11-02T12:29:39Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > But I like Comedy Central and the SciFi channel. What’s wrong with those channels? They showed a girls gone wild commercial at around 3pm today on SciFi. What’s wrong with themm is you don’t own them and can’t decide what’s on them every second of the day. Have you considered that if everybody but your parents thinks you’re ridiculously prudish and excessively judgemental, maybe you are? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/295 "2009-11-02T16:50:10Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > But I like Comedy Central and the SciFi channel. What’s wrong with those channels? They showed a girls gone wild commercial at around 3pm today on SciFi. I dunno how “wrong” it is, but you may be shocked - _shocked!_ - to find out that you’re not the only one watching those channels and the people who make these videos are assuming (reasonably, I expect) that some useful percentage of the viewers will in fact be interested in their products. From what I know of Comedy Central (and assuming the programming is much like the Canadian equivalent - the Comedy Network - albeit with fewer _Corner Gas_ reruns) if a GGW commercial offends you, I can’t imagine you watching _South Park_ or indeed much of anything after 9 p.m. Anyway, get a Tivo. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SmartAlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlx)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/296 "2009-11-02T16:58:19Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I dunno how “wrong” it is, but you may be shocked - _shocked!_ - to find out that you’re not the only one watching those channels and the people who make these videos are assuming (reasonably, I expect) that some useful percentage of the viewers will in fact be interested in their products… > > …Anyway, get a Tivo. Thank you for proving my point. The attitude in society has changed to accept girls gone wild commercials in the middle of a sunday afternoon, so much so that someone who doesn’t want to be exposed to them has to go out of his way and spend his own hard earned money to avoid it. > [@](#): > > From what I know of Comedy Central (and assuming the programming is much like the Canadian equivalent - the Comedy Network - albeit with fewer _Corner Gas_ reruns) They still run those? I love Corner Gas! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/297 "2009-11-02T17:01:17Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > Thank you for proving my point. The attitude in society has changed to accept girls gone wild commercials in the middle of a sunday afternoon, so much so that someone who doesn’t want to be exposed to them has to go out of his way and spend his own hard earned money to avoid it. Forgive my ignorance, but SciFi over there is a cable channel, isn’t it? Aren’t you going out of your way to get it, spending your own hard earned money to get it, in the first place? At the least, you have to go and earn a TV. The person who doesn’t want to be exposed to it is the one who doesn’t have to do anything, since they don’t have to arrange to recieve that channel in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SmartAlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlx)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/298 "2009-11-02T17:03:13Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Forgive my ignorance, but SciFi over there is a cable channel, isn’t it? Aren’t you going out of your way to get it, spending your own hard earned money to get it, in the first place? No, I’m not. It comes with the rent. And besides you are missing the point. Even if I did pay for it, I would have to pay EXTRA to avoid the commercials with TIVO. And I’ll say it once more, my problem is not how the commercials affect me, but how they affect society. I care more how society affects me. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/299 "2009-11-02T17:08:28Z")
> [@SmartAlx](#): > > No, I’m not. It comes with the rent. And besides you are missing the point. Even if I did pay for it, I would have to pay EXTRA to avoid the commercials with TIVO. If it comes with the rent, you’re still paying for it. The default isn’t “have a TV, have SciFi”. You’re going out of your way already, is my point. You could do less, and yet have what you want. You would have to do more to have exactly, more specifically, what you want, but that kind of seems reasonable, in all honesty. > [@](#): > > And I’ll say it once more, my problem is not how the commercials affect me, but how they affect society. I care more how society affects me. What is your solution to this particular issue? In terms of society, i’m having problems thinking of any that don’t affect society worse, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156/300 "2009-11-02T17:08:33Z")
Most people in society don’t think these commercials are much of a problem. So apparently, society is wrong and you are right. Good luck with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-solution-to-a-million-unwanted-pregnacies-occurring-as-a-result-of-protected-sex/515156.md?page=16)