# When a beautiful woman starts at work... what have you seen?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-beautiful-woman-starts-at-work-what-have-you-seen/815624>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 7, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-beautiful-woman-starts-at-work-what-have-you-seen/815624 "2018-06-07T19:41:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-beautiful-woman-starts-at-work-what-have-you-seen/815624/141 "2018-06-09T21:03:22Z")

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Colour me surprised.

You still haven’t answered the question: If good looking people know it, why do they need someone like you to remind them in a work setting?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-beautiful-woman-starts-at-work-what-have-you-seen/815624/142 "2018-06-09T21:53:02Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Yes, to be honest, I thought of making this more gender neutral but then I thought saying “beautiful woman” would be more fun.

Are you aware that what was “fun” for you was the opposite for some other people? Or do you simply not care?

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> You know, part of the problem today is we are so darn afraid of being open and honest so we feel we need to make everything all gender neutral and non threatening.

In other words - to you being honest means making everything gender biased and threatening? Or do you not realize that is how you come across?

That “problem” you refer to is _women being open and honest_ with you - but you don’t see it that way because it disagrees with your opinion and what YOU consider to be fun.

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> Yes, you should not go crazy over someone or be weird but I think in our society people who are good looking know it and learn to deal with it.

Good god, you are SOOOOO clueless…

You “think” that - did it ever occur to you to ASK? Or are you afraid women might give you a different answer than the one you want? Nevermind the multiple times women in this forum have discussed harassment and belittlement. You don’t see because you _don’t want to_ see it, you don’t hear it because you don’t like the message.

A thread using the word “person” instead of “woman” would have been more inclusive and probably more actual fun than this one. Your loss.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-beautiful-woman-starts-at-work-what-have-you-seen/815624/143 "2018-06-09T22:03:52Z")

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**Warning Issued**

The idea you wanted to deliberately “stir the pot” by trivializing very real concerns is a problem. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but apparently it actually was your intention to poke at the “need to make everything gender neutral and non threatening”, as if that was something worth being mocked.

The thread went on for 3 pages _despite_ your attempt to poison the well for fair discussion, due to my moderation and the willingness of the board members to ignore what you did in the OP.

Bad move, and don’t do it again. I’m locking this thread so maybe that point will get across.

> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Quite frankly, I like to stir the pot.
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> Yes, to be honest, I thought of making this more gender neutral but then I thought saying “beautiful woman” would be more fun. And since this quickly went to 3 pages of comments it seems to have worked. Plus people have tossed in the subject of men themselves which I figured would happen and it did.
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> You know, part of the problem today is we are so darn afraid of being open and honest so we feel we need to make everything all gender neutral and non threatening. Especially early on when people were attacking me for even daring to think people would notice and react to a beautiful woman.
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> Yes, you should not go crazy over someone or be weird but I think in our society people who are good looking know it and learn to deal with it.

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