# When a man talks about his "bitch tits" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 3, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337 "2005-11-03T19:25:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/1 "2005-11-03T19:25:06Z")
I assume it means he’s worried about getting, or has got, plump, budding little man titties - I think. In this context does “bitch tits” reference full, saggy man breasts, or is more that he’s on his way[/U,] and while he might have hairy, plump little rosebuds he is at an intermediate stage and has not gotten his full man tits yet. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/2 "2005-11-03T19:30:48Z")
Does it really matter which? I mean big, little or in between… he ain’t happy with his chest. Best start doing some pushups. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/3 "2005-11-03T19:39:30Z")
Maybe it means he’s gone from two nipples to eight? ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/4 "2005-11-03T19:40:26Z")
The only time I’ve ever heard the term “bitch tits” is when a bodybuilder on sterioids was complaining about the growth of his nipples. IIRC, too much testosterone causes feminization of the male breast tissue - hence “bitch tits.” ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/5 "2005-11-03T19:40:52Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Does it really matter which? . This was my thought. Does it matter the exact definition? Only on the Dope. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/6 "2005-11-03T19:41:33Z")
The first reference I heard to them was in _Fight Club_, where Robert Paulson got them from losing his testicles… ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/7 "2005-11-03T19:55:46Z")
Yeah, it’s a Fight Club reference, referring to man-boobs. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/8 "2005-11-03T20:06:55Z")
Eight months ago, Bob’s testicles were removed. Then hormone therapy. He developed bitch tits because his testosterone was too high and his body upped the estrogen. And that was where I fit… ---
**Author:** ![Lish\_Lash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@Lish\_Lash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lish_Lash)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/9 "2005-11-03T21:11:15Z")
“Bitch tits” are definitely a symptom of Testosterone overdose, not of overeating. In addition to steroid abuse or hormonal imbalance, it can also occur naturally in adolescent boys due to surging hormone levels. What happens is that excess Testosterone is converted into Estrogen by a naturally occurring enzyme called Aromatase. Since this process occurs within the cells, the Estrogen cannot be detected or blocked in the bloodstream. Levels of Aromatase vary among individuals, but are concentrated in the brain, bones, and breast tissue. While Aromatase blocking drugs are available, long-term deprivation of Estrogen can lead to osteoporosis. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/10 "2005-11-04T01:23:56Z")
> [@Lish Lash](#): > > “Bitch tits” are definitely a symptom of Testosterone overdose, not of overeating. In addition to steroid abuse or hormonal imbalance, it can also occur naturally in adolescent boys due to surging hormone levels. > > What happens is that excess Testosterone is converted into Estrogen by a naturally occurring enzyme called Aromatase. Since this process occurs within the cells, the Estrogen cannot be detected or blocked in the bloodstream. Levels of Aromatase vary among individuals, but are concentrated in the brain, bones, and breast tissue. While Aromatase blocking drugs are available, long-term deprivation of Estrogen can lead to osteoporosis. So just how does a man get rid of his, erm, bitch tits? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/11 "2005-11-04T01:33:20Z")
I always picture “bitch tits” as being really bouncy and floppy. Maybe its just guys with Gynecomastia ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/12 "2005-11-04T01:38:46Z")
> [@Agent Foxtrot](#): > > So just how does a man get rid of his, erm, bitch tits? In advanced stages - hardened lump under nipple, etc - many people need [surgery](http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/procedure_folder/male_breast/gyno_bodybuilding.html) (The Rock is one of the more famous people to have had it). Usually you take an anti-estrogen or anti-aromatase along with your steroid cycle and throw in Proviron (another steroid) which somehow downregulates estrogen receptors to prevent bitch tits from ever happening. There was a thread on a bodybuilding forum a while ago where a member posted pictures of him performing this surgery on himself and having his wife sew him up. The replies that came mostly consisted of exclamations of, " :eek: :eek: :eek:". The technical term is gynecomastia, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/13 "2005-11-04T21:02:33Z")
> [@Stark Raven Mad](#): > > There was a thread on a bodybuilding forum a while ago where a member posted pictures of him performing this surgery on himself and having his wife sew him up. The replies that came mostly consisted of exclamations of, " :eek: :eek: :eek:". You owe me a new keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/14 "2005-11-04T21:19:24Z")
If you have them, maybe you can get one of these T-shirts: > **[Abercrombie & Fitch Girls t-shirt: "Who Needs Brains When You Have...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343196)** > > Abercrombie & Fitch is at it again, this time releasing t-shirt for girls/young women with the following words emblazoned across the chest/breast are: “Who Need Brains When You Have These?” Womens groups are outraged, maintaining it degrades... ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/15 "2005-11-04T23:06:00Z")
> [@Stark Raven Mad](#): > > There was a thread on a bodybuilding forum a while ago where a member posted pictures of him performing this surgery on himself and having his wife sew him up. The replies that came mostly consisted of exclamations of, " :eek: :eek: :eek:". I. WANT. LINK! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/16 "2005-11-05T02:35:36Z")
Call me sick but… yeah, I’d like to see that link, too. ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/17 "2005-11-05T03:16:46Z")
Just ran search, and turns out that the board that hosted the thread - GotFina - went down along with its archives. There’s a thread that links to and discusses it, though: [http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49780](http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49780) And one picture in this thread: > **[Pics Of My Do-It-Yerself Gyno Surgery!!!!!!!](https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/57468-pics-my-do-yerself-gyno-surgery.html)** > > Now that I have your attention heres my question: Does anybody have the link to the thread where the guy performed his own gyno surgery. I think it Warning: NSFW. Also, it’s kind of gross. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-a-man-talks-about-his-bitch-tits/329337/18 "2005-11-05T03:32:24Z")
[Here’s an actual surgeon](http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/procedure_folder/gynecomastia.html) removing men’s “bitch tits”.