# When did Arrow start getting good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 12, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391 "2015-10-12T01:26:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391/1 "2015-10-12T01:26:53Z")
I’ve been hearing good stuff about Arrow lately, and I enjoyed catching up on the first season of Flash, which of course crosses over at some points. I stopped watching Arrow at some point during the first season because I got tired of all the rich white people (the little sister, specifically) whining about rich white people problems. For those who have been enjoying it, is there a particular point when things start getting good? I’d like to skip over as much of the grind as possible. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391/2 "2015-10-12T02:25:00Z")
I’ve been watching since episode 1 because I wanted to watch a show about Green Arrow, a favorite of mine. Instead I got Batman with a bow and arrow. While it would have to get significantly worse before I would give up, I’m still waiting for it to get “good”. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391/3 "2015-10-12T03:34:40Z")
They’re pretty much done with rich people’s problems once you get a few episodes into episode 3, but there are probably some pretty huge plot shifts and changes that take place along the way. I’m okay with the rich people problems, so I think it’s all good, if inconsistent. Things don’t tend to make sense more than a few episodes at a time; I haven’t checked, but they may be rotating out shifts of writers every few episodes, and the arcs don’t necessarily link together too well. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391/4 "2015-10-12T13:17:52Z")
Season 1 is pretty solid, but I felt season 2 really upped the game. I wasn’t sure anything would ever happen that has permanent impact on the characters, but things definitely happen in season 2 and 3 that drastically change the show. I like shows where you can turn them on and see where the show is by how characters look and act. It gets like that instead of just being a refresh every week(Star Trek, style). I also feel like the end of S1 was very solid, when the villain is revealed fully and starts getting really bad and a bunch of great stuff goes down. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-arrow-start-getting-good/734391/5 "2015-10-15T23:37:17Z")
It was probably around the time you quit watching that it started getting better. Not that I think it was ever bad, but it definitely started to take an upturn in the middle of season 1 when they decided to go in a direction closer to the comics than what they started out as.