# When did bands start having "band names"?

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**Created:** [April 11, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897 "2014-04-11T21:52:27Z")
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### Author: ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/1 "2014-04-11T21:52:27Z")

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It’s a running gag to declare a particularly catchy, random collection of words a “Band Name.” But my question is, when did musical bands start to appear as entities with odd names?

The history of popular music isn’t my strong suit, but I can’t recall any 19th century virtuosos touring as [Pag Mahone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini) or anything—though I think I’ve heard at least a few turn of the century examples of “The [Artist name] Orchestra” or the “[Artist Name] Quartet.” The [Hardn Quartet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haydn_Quartet) is the first example I can find of such a group not named for one of it’s members, but like I said, it’s not my field of expertise, so I could be off by fifty years.

So, I’m asking…when _did_ you start seeing bands named like “The Proper Nouns”?

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### Author: ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/2 "2014-04-11T22:03:22Z")

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The Ink Spots were performing under a group name by the mid 1930s.

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### Author: ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/3 "2014-04-11T22:09:33Z")

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But I notice that the Haydn Quartet is older. That’s the earliest I can find that doesn’t have the bandleader’s name attached. Otherwise, there are jazz bands called “\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ and his \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_” from before then.

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#### Post date: [April 11, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/4 "2014-04-11T22:26:22Z")

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Under the terms of the question, the Royal Danish Orchestra dates from 1491.

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### Author: ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/5 "2014-04-11T23:56:16Z")

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How about the [Fisk Jubilee Singers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisk_Jubilee_Singers)(1871)?

The problem with a question like this, of course, is that documentation of the vast majority of live music that happened prior to the explosion of records in the 1920s is spotty. It seems pretty clear that band names were already common at that point – the first jazz recording (1917) was by the [Original Dixieland Jass Band](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_Dixieland_Jass_Band).

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### Author: ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/6 "2014-04-12T06:24:18Z")

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The first group whose name made me sit up and say, “HUUUnnhh??” was The Lovin’ Spoonful in the late sixties. Before that group names always made sense, sort of.

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### Author: ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/7 "2014-04-12T06:27:00Z")

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> [@movingfinger](#):
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> The first group whose name made me sit up and say, “HUUUnnhh??” was The Lovin’ Spoonful in the late sixties. Before that group names always made sense, sort of.

Whereas I remember laughing when I heard there was a group called “Strawberry Alarm Clock” - I think that was the first “off the wall” name of a group I had ever heard.

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### Author: ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/8 "2014-04-12T14:21:29Z")

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What was the first band/group whose name didn’t follow the “The \<something, _usually plural_\>” convention?

First I can think of is Cream, who debuted in 1966, and even they were briefly “The Cream.”

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### Author: ![Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/43a26b/32.png) [@Pine\_Fresh\_Scent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pine_Fresh_Scent)
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Marty: Let’s…uh talk a little bit about the history of the group. I understand Nigel you and David originally started the band wuh…back in…when was it…back in 1964?

David: Well before that we were in different groups, I was in a group called The Creatures and which was a skiffle group.

Nigel: I was in Lovely Lads.

David: Yeah.

Nigel: And then we looked at each other and says well we might as well join up you know and uh…

David: So we became The Originals.

Nigel: Right.

David: And we had to change our name actually…

Nigel: Well there was, there was another group in the east end called The Originals and we had to rename ourselves.

David: The New Originals.

Nigel: The New Originals and then, uh, they became…

David: The Regulars, they changed their name back to The Regulars and we thought well, we could go back to The Originals but what’s the point?

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### Author: ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/10 "2014-04-12T17:16:47Z")

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> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> What was the first band/group whose name didn’t follow the “The \<something, _usually plural_\>” convention?
> 
> First I can think of is Cream, who debuted in 1966, and even they were briefly “The Cream.”

Pre-dating this would be Them, Van Morrison’s original band, which formed in April 1964.

I’ve often asked this same question, and the above is the best answer I can come up with.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/11 "2014-04-12T17:32:44Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> It’s a running gag to declare a particularly catchy, random collection of words a “Band Name.” But my question is, when did musical bands start to appear as entities with odd names?
> 
> …
> 
> So, I’m asking…when _did_ you start seeing bands named like “The Proper Nouns”?

It seems to me that those are two different questions. There were plenty of groups in the 1950s with “The Proper Nouns” type names: The Silhouettes, The Platters, The Coasters, etc. What you’re asking about in the first sentence seems to be an incongruous juxtaposition of adjectives and nouns, like Strawberry Alarm Clock, Jefferson Airplane, Velvet Underground, etc. And that was a phenomenon that took off in the late 1960s. This is the kind of name that is the subject of the “Band name!” meme, which may have originated with Dave Barry.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/12 "2014-04-12T17:33:26Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> Pre-dating this would be Them, Van Morrison’s original band, which formed in April 1964.
> 
> I’ve often asked this same question, and the above is the best answer I can come up with.

Simon and Garfunkel’s first group in 1957 was called Tom and Jerry, and they even had a minor hit under that name, but I guess you couldn’t consider them a band, really, as there weren’t backup musicians that I’m aware of.

Colibri: I think 1965 is more accurate, with the advent of groups like Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service, etc.

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### Author: ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)
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Steven Allen, ca. 1962, thought _Dow Jones and The Industrials_ would be a great band name.

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### Author: ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)
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> [@DChord568](#):
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> Pre-dating this would be Them, Van Morrison’s original band, which formed in April 1964.
> 
> I’ve often asked this same question, and the above is the best answer I can come up with.

How about Bluesology, formed circa 1962?

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### Author: ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/15 "2014-04-12T17:52:47Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> How about Bluesology, formed circa 1962?

Good one…though of course, they didn’t achieve the renown on the charts that Them did.

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### Author: ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/16 "2014-04-12T18:10:06Z")

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> [@movingfinger](#):
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> The first group whose name made me sit up and say, “HUUUnnhh??” was The Lovin’ Spoonful in the late sixties. Before that group names always made sense, sort of.

For me it was Bread.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/17 "2014-04-12T18:37:53Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Colibri: I think 1965 is more accurate, with the advent of groups like Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service, etc.

Well it started in the mid sixties, but as I said it really took off (and probably peaked) in the late sixties then.

Let’s take a look. These are just names on the “Incongrous adjective/noun” model, not “The Proper Nouns” or “Somebody and the Whatever” models, even if the latter were outlandish. Some of these may be literary references or puns, but I’ve included them anyway.

[Musical groups established in 1960](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1960)

Nothing.

[1961](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1961)

Nothing.

[1962](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1962)

Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, maybe.

[1963](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1962)

Nothing.

[1964](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1964)

Blues Magoos (maybe)  
Velvet Underground

[1965](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1965)

Captain Beefheart  
Chocolate Watchband  
Electric Prunes  
Grateful Dead  
Jefferson Airplane  
Pink Finks  
Pink Floyd

[1966](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1966)

Buffalo Springfield  
Iron Butterfly  
Moby Grape  
Soft Machine  
Vanilla Fudge

[1967](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1966)

Blue Cheer  
Blue Oyster Cult  
Electric Flag  
Elmer Gantry’s Velvet Opera  
Opal Butterfly  
Peppermint Trolley Company  
Plastic Penny  
Savage Resurrection  
Spooky Tooth  
Strawberry Alarm Clock  
Tangerine Dream

[1968](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1968)

Fat Mattress  
Flying Burrito Brothers  
Grand Funk Railroad  
Illinois Speed Press  
Led Zepplin  
Medicine Head  
Plastic People of the Universe

[1969](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1969)

Atomic Rooster  
Beefy Red  
Blue Mink  
Steeleye Span

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#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/18 "2014-04-12T19:10:26Z")

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Mississippi Sheiks

> **[Mississippi Sheiks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Sheiks)**
>
> The Mississippi Sheiks were a popular and influential American guitar and fiddle group of the 1930s. They were notable mostly for playing country blues but were adept at many styles of popular music of the time. They recorded around 70 tracks, primarily in the first half of the 1930s. In 2004, they were inducted into the Mississippi Musicians Hall of Fame.
> Their 1930 blues single "Sitting on Top of the World" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 2008. In 2018, it was selected for preserv...

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#### Post date: [April 12, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-bands-start-having-band-names/685897/19 "2014-04-12T20:23:54Z")

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Re 1964: members of the bands that became The Velvet Underground and The Blues Magoos came together in this year. However, the Velvets didn’t adopt that name until November 1965. The name Bloos Magoos wasn’t used until 1966, to be changed soon afterwards.

Re Captain Beefheart: that was Don Van Vliet’s alias, but not the name of the band. Through most of his career, the billing was Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band.

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Well it started in the mid sixties, but as I said it really took off (and probably peaked) in the late sixties then.
> 
> Let’s take a look. These are just names on the “Incongrous adjective/noun” model, not “The Proper Nouns” or “Somebody and the Whatever” models, even if the latter were outlandish. Some of these may be literary references or puns, but I’ve included them anyway.
> 
> [Musical groups established in 1960](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1960)
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> [1961](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1961)
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> [1962](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1962)
> 
> Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, maybe.
> 
> [1963](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1962)
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> [1964](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1964)
> 
> Blues Magoos (maybe)  
> Velvet Underground
> 
> [1965](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1965)
> 
> Captain Beefheart  
> Chocolate Watchband  
> Electric Prunes  
> Grateful Dead  
> Jefferson Airplane  
> Pink Finks  
> Pink Floyd
> 
> [1966](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1966)
> 
> Buffalo Springfield  
> Iron Butterfly  
> Moby Grape  
> Soft Machine  
> Vanilla Fudge
> 
> [1967](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1966)
> 
> Blue Cheer  
> Blue Oyster Cult  
> Electric Flag  
> Elmer Gantry’s Velvet Opera  
> Opal Butterfly  
> Peppermint Trolley Company  
> Plastic Penny  
> Savage Resurrection  
> Spooky Tooth  
> Strawberry Alarm Clock  
> Tangerine Dream
> 
> [1968](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1968)
> 
> Fat Mattress  
> Flying Burrito Brothers  
> Grand Funk Railroad  
> Illinois Speed Press  
> Led Zepplin  
> Medicine Head  
> Plastic People of the Universe
> 
> [1969](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Musical_groups_established_in_1969)
> 
> Atomic Rooster  
> Beefy Red  
> Blue Mink  
> Steeleye Span

Nobody likes a smart-ass, you know. 😃

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