# When did "cocksucker" become synonymous with "homosexual"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2002, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035 "2002-07-15T10:54:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/181 "2002-07-20T05:43:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grendel72 \*  
> **Fuck wicket= probably a bad thing, you could get splinters. Only used as an insult by Jarbaby.**

No, good thing! Good thing!

I promise there won’t be any splinters.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/182 "2002-07-20T06:14:35Z")

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That’s only because he can’t get wood. _rimshot_

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/183 "2002-07-20T06:26:31Z")

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Sorry, **Wikkit** , I couldn’t help myself. Besides, it’s like teeball. You left it right there, sitting in front of the plate.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/184 "2002-07-21T01:46:43Z")

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Ouch, **Beeb** , that hurts. \<sniffle\> I expected better from other DNA nick-types \</sniffle\>  
Ah, who am I kidding. I would have made the joke if I’d thought of it.

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/185 "2002-07-21T04:45:29Z")

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It would be interesting to find out the real origins of the word “cocksucker”, I would imagine it refers to someone that’s submissive and is probably more a slight to women that weren’t in high standiing, i.e. a respectable woman wouldn’t suck a cock.

This bit about it being homophobic smells of homomania, and that sucks, it blows, and it’s a cocksucking impediment to free fucking speech.

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**Author:** ![TVGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@TVGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/186 "2002-07-21T23:05:04Z")

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The problem, **Stinkpalm** is that sometimes people throw these terms around without thinking and they immediately end up showing how shallow, hateful and generally unpleasant they are.

To me, the fact that someone is willing to throw around terms like “cocksucker” or “faggot” or “homo” when tossing insults around simply indicates that the person has been brought up badly and has a real problem with sexual insecurity.

After all, remember that the first guy to yell “cocksucker” is usually the guy who most recently tasted cock!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/187 "2002-07-21T23:23:38Z")

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> I see the insult as a matter of perspective. If someone told me to “fuck me up the ass”, I consider that a bad thing. _Not_ because it == gay, but because I, as a straight person, do not like being fucked up the ass. I would get zero pleasure from it. Same with “cocksucker.” I, as a straight person, would not enjoy sucking a cock.

Actually, that should read “I, as a person who doesn’t like things being stuck into his poop chute, do not like being fucked up the ass.” Being heterosexual has nothing to do with it. Lots of straight people (men and women) like anal sex, and lots of gay people don’t. While I don’t necessarily disagree with your conclusions, your premises are invalid.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2002, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/188 "2002-07-22T04:54:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TVGuy \*  
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> After all, remember that the first guy to yell “cocksucker” is usually the guy who most recently tasted cock! \*\*

Do you have some sort of cite for this insight? This sounds like a TVGuy original here. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/189 "2002-07-22T17:55:03Z")

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He who smelt it, dealt it.

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**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/190 "2002-07-23T05:32:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by erislover \*  
> \*\*He who smelt it, dealt it. \*\*

He who denied it, supplied it!

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**Author:** ![sirjamesp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@sirjamesp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirjamesp)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/191 "2002-07-23T07:20:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by HoldenCaulfield \*  
> He who denied it, supplied it!

He who said the rhyme, committed the crime.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/192 "2002-07-23T13:53:10Z")

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Guilty dog barks first.  
[sub]Damn, that sure sounded _country_.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-cocksucker-become-synonymous-with-homosexual/119035/193 "2002-07-23T14:18:38Z")

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He who smelt it first is he who dealt the burst.

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