# When did Dr Strange...\<Spoilers for Avengers Endgame\>

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 10, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326 "2019-06-10T19:28:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/1 "2019-06-10T19:28:44Z")

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/2 "2019-06-10T19:31:49Z")

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Is this a game, or just an incomplete post?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/3 "2019-06-10T19:32:30Z")

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…know that the timeline they were in, was the winning time line?  
My friends and I have argued on this, my own opinion is that when he arrived at the remains of the Avengers HQ, he did not know then if it was it and he did not know for sure, until just before he signals Tony. (I think it was Danvers being KO’d that precipitated it).

Others think that he knew from the start? Cumberbatches expression in that scene certainly looks like he has a sudden eureka moment, so I am guessing he at least, played it that way.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/4 "2019-06-10T19:32:39Z")

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which iteration is this?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/5 "2019-06-10T19:33:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is this a game, or just an incomplete post?

If you put you cursor on the thread link, the first post is shown, making spoilers warnings less effective. It’s to avoid that.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/6 "2019-06-10T19:37:03Z")

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There’s no right timeline, there is a correct sequence of events that leads to them winning. He knew they were in the right path up to that point, that is all.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/7 "2019-06-10T19:45:11Z")

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So the question is **what** did he know and **when did he know it**.  
He tells Stark when asked, _if I tell you, it won’t happen_. So at that point what did he know? This is on the right path? This is it? When he raises his finger, that’s clearly a _yup, this is the one_, but when did he realise that? At that moment, or when he “returned”, or in between?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/8 "2019-06-10T20:11:24Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So the question is **what** did he know and **when did he know it**.  
> He tells Stark when asked, _if I tell you, it won’t happen_. So at that point what did he know? This is on the right path? This is it? When he raises his finger, that’s clearly a _yup, this is the one_, but when did he realise that? At that moment, or when he “returned”, or in between?

When he realized that Stark successfully regained the stones - and that ‘at that moment’, Stark was still alive.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/9 "2019-06-10T20:18:35Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> So the question is **what** did he know and **when did he know it**.  
> He tells Stark when asked, _if I tell you, it won’t happen_. So at that point what did he know? This is on the right path? This is it? When he raises his finger, that’s clearly a _yup, this is the one_, but when did he realise that? At that moment, or when he “returned”, or in between?

He could only know “in the moment” that they’ve been on the right path. But he couldn’t necessarily know that they were on they going to continue on that path. When he signaled “one”, he was saying, so far, everything is going exactly as I’ve seen it, including me signaling “one”.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/10 "2019-06-10T23:07:23Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> He could only know “in the moment” that they’ve been on the right path. But he couldn’t necessarily know that they were on they going to continue on that path.

This. Prior to the finger, he knew they were on the right path, but there were still forks in the road that could lead to defeat. When the remaining possible variations could no longer substantively change the outcome, he let Tony know.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-dr-strange-spoilers-for-avengers-endgame/835326/11 "2019-06-10T23:28:25Z")

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I spent the time between Avengies:Infy War and Avengies:Endust being pissed at Dr. Strange for giving Thanos his stone.

I was there on opening night, and the raised finger had me cheering.
