# When did everybody start wearing their scarves like this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 9, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580 "2009-01-09T20:18:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/21 "2009-01-10T02:26:39Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I have a scarf that is really quite similar to that one - nicer colours, but about twelve feet long. Only twelve feet? You call that a scarf? **[This](http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/3746/Scarf.html)** is a scarf (ugly web design, but the scarf seemed to be from 12-24 feet over the years). ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/22 "2009-01-10T03:10:47Z")
I just started wearing my scarf like that last week. I’m still torn between which way I prefer. My other method is to hang it over my neck, and then toss each end across my neck and over my shoulder so that the ends hang down my back. ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/23 "2009-01-10T05:05:58Z")
Ha. Our local newspaper just ran an article on a college student who dresses “fashionable European”. He, of course, wears his scarf using the loop method. I first saw the style on college students around town a few years ago. I like it. It’s trendy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Standup\_Karmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Standup\_Karmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Standup_Karmic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/24 "2009-01-10T06:43:10Z")
First saw it when Gap did a big ad campaign about their scarves some 3 or 4 or 5 years ago. Maybe it’s just where I’m at in Canada, or maybe I just never noticed, but before that, scarves were far more a necessity than a fashion statement. ---
**Author:** ![Neverender](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/848f3c/32.png) [@Neverender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neverender)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/25 "2009-01-10T11:38:34Z")
Saw it for the first time years ago, maybe 3-4, while I was still in school/six form. I’m in my 2nd year of university now. It’s a lot easier put on and take off, especially in a school setting, where you have to move from room to room with quite a few outdoor areas (proper schools are more than one building!) and you need to get ‘layered up’ quickly so you’re not late for the next class etc. So, what I’m basically saying is that it’s a lot easier to put on and take off when you have to do it several times a day, compared to wrapping it. ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/26 "2009-01-10T11:46:10Z")
I started wearing my scarf that way this winter and I agree that it is much better than the loop-de-loop method I had used before. My new town has incredibly fierce winds, so I usually tie the scarf and then stuff the ends into my jacket, like a cravat. Doesn’t blow around and it is much, much warmer. It also looks really nice, if I may be permitted to say. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/27 "2009-01-10T15:45:09Z")
According to one source, this is already obsolete. [Sorry folks](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/15/beauty.fashion): > [@Charlie Brooker](#): > > I’ve missed memos before. For instance I never bothered with scarves for years, because I couldn’t work out how you were meant to wrap them round your neck without the dangling ends getting in the way. And then about two years ago someone showed me the method whereby you fold the scarf in half and poke the end through the loop and - hey presto - it all stays neatly in place. Wow, I thought. Everyone else has known this for years, and I’ve just found out now! I bought a couple of scarves to celebrate, and smugly paraded around in them like a child who’d just learned to tie his own laces. > > And then a few weeks later I was sitting (uncharacteristically scarfless) with a friend having a drink, when she suddenly pointed at someone walking past the window in a scarf, and scowled, “God! Why is everybody suddenly wearing their scarves that way, as if they’re at university? They look like such tossers.” > > I shrank in my seat, wondering how I’d missed not one, but three memos: the one that’d taught everyone else this particular method of scarf-tying, the second one that decreed it fashionable, and the third that decided it was passé. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/28 "2009-01-10T15:51:56Z")
> [@amrussell](#): > > According to one source, this is already obsolete. [Sorry folks](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/15/beauty.fashion): Wow. I’m so glad I’m old enough not to care. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/29 "2009-01-10T16:00:00Z")
My girlfriend does it that way, too. Me, I’m just learning scarves, since I never used to wear them for some quirky reason or other I’ve now decided to have grown out of, and I basically tie them – just a simple not, not a tie knot, [like this](http://z.about.com/d/crochet/1/0/K/Q/clblockscarf3.jpg) but with an extra loop around the neck. ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/30 "2009-01-10T16:24:20Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Wow. I’m so glad I’m old enough not to care. Agreed. I like wearing my scarf this way. It’s warmer and better-looking on me than any other way I’ve worn a scarf. So, I’m going to keep wearing it. Even if some bitch wants to call me a tosser. Seriously. Fashonistas are some of the worst people ever. ---
**Author:** ![Scougs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scougs/32/3158_2.png) [@Scougs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scougs)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/31 "2009-01-10T16:55:03Z")
(My first post after a long time lurking. Be gentle with me. I’ll gradually work my up to more controversial topics, I promise.) I blame the fragrant [Jose Mourinho](http://www.fcfootballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/jose-mourinho-resigns.jpg) for the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/32 "2009-01-10T17:37:28Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > My girlfriend does it that way, too. Me, I’m just learning scarves, since I never used to wear them for some quirky reason or other I’ve now decided to have grown out of, and I basically tie them – just a simple not, not a tie knot, [like this](http://z.about.com/d/crochet/1/0/K/Q/clblockscarf3.jpg) but with an extra loop around the neck. Yep. I just tie my scarf, too. Sometimes with an extra loop, sometimes not. Depends on the thickness of the scarf. ---
**Author:** ![Juggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/juggler/32/3194_2.png) [@Juggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juggler)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/33 "2009-01-10T18:06:31Z")
In Sweden (the home of cold) I’ve seen them worn like that for atleast ten years. Might be longer but I too clueless to notice. ---
**Author:** ![StuffLikeThatThere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc8723/32.png) [@StuffLikeThatThere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StuffLikeThatThere)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/34 "2009-01-10T19:02:10Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Wow. I’m so glad I’m old enough not to care. This made me laugh out loud (no, for real, not an LOL) because it was exactly what I was thinking. Are you in my head? Somebody showed me how to do this more than five years ago (I know because it was before I moved) and I’ve never looked back. I love it. It keeps all the ends tucked where they should be, and instead of having a bunch of bulk on my chest (where there is already enough bulk thankyouverymuch), it’s a more streamlined look. And sometimes I wear scarves as my only concession to the cold because I flipping hate coats. Hate. It’s amazing how much a scarf does even without a coat. And then I don’t get a neckache from drafts (see above mention of oldness). But now that I know that it bugs someone I may do it just for fun. _cackle_ ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/35 "2009-01-10T19:16:15Z")
Scarves are for pansies. Here in God’s Country, we use [gaiters](http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0351/Arcteryx-Rho-LTW-Neck-Gaiter.html). ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/36 "2009-01-10T19:19:03Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > Scarves are for pansies. Here in God’s Country, we use [gaiters](http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0351/Arcteryx-Rho-LTW-Neck-Gaiter.html). I have one of those that can turn into a hood. I wear it around the house when I’m feeling both dorky and cold, which is much of the time. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@bink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bink)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/37 "2009-01-10T20:07:53Z")
I have one with a drawstring on one end so it’s a hat until I decide it’s a gaiter. Oh, and sorry, I rarely wear scarves but when I do it’s the loop method. I learned it at least five years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/38 "2009-01-10T22:44:32Z")
> [@FarmerChick](#): > > Scarves are for pansies. Here in God’s Country, we use [gaiters](http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0351/Arcteryx-Rho-LTW-Neck-Gaiter.html). That’s called a ‘snood’ here, and I think they’re only for girls. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/39 "2009-01-11T00:52:20Z")
**Mangetout** - What do people in your area call [these](http://www.moonstruckoriginals.com/snood.JPG) if gaiters are snoods? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580/40 "2009-01-11T01:06:18Z")
I’d call that some kind of hairnet, although I’ve never seen it’s like before. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-everybody-start-wearing-their-scarves-like-this/480580.md?page=3)