# When did Hannibal Lector become someone the audience cheers for?

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**Created:** [May 17, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221 "2015-05-17T04:47:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/121 "2015-05-30T13:41:36Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> Yet bizarrely everyone around him seems to regard him as the more charming version played by Hopkins, apparently he is a social bon vivant although we the audience get no hint as to why he would be regarded so.

They have obviously changed the characters and plot quite a bit for the television program.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/122 "2015-05-30T14:28:14Z")

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> [@Archeonomist](#):
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> Maybe s/he can separate life from fiction? You like to see movie bad guys get what they deserve - do you also enjoy seeing real life criminals get executed?

I am satisfied to see justice meted out, in whatever manner is appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/123 "2015-05-30T15:20:25Z")

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How do you decide what is appropriate?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/124 "2015-05-30T15:38:03Z")

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Paul Krendler meets his just reward.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/125 "2015-05-31T04:12:47Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Cox has shown himself capable of Shatnerian performances elsewhere.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII love it!

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/126 "2015-05-31T17:43:26Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> They have obviously changed the characters and plot quite a bit for the television program.

The TV show is more of a prequel where we see him before he was imprisoned and people found out he was a serial killer cannibal.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/127 "2015-05-31T18:24:40Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> How do you decide what is appropriate?

That’s what a sentencing hearing, or its equivalent, is for.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/128 "2015-05-31T21:29:09Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> The TV show is more of a prequel where we see him before he was imprisoned and people found out he was a serial killer cannibal.

I don’t believe that Will Graham knew him before his capture described in the novel, and they have killed one fellow already that dies much later in the novels.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/129 "2015-06-02T06:14:58Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Your point is well taken. If I saw a Star Wars movie I should expect to see Darth Vader behave as Darth Vader. But I would also prefer that at least by the end of the picture, he get his just desserts and be hauled off to some interplanetary hoosegow.  
> And if he triumphs in the end, and somehow I can tell that the audience cheers that, it bodes ill for the audience, to my way of thinking, because that says a great deal about THEIR values. ☹

Well, he DOES triumph in the end, but only in that he turns away from the Dark Side and by killing the Emperor he destroys the Sith and saves his son’s life, at the expense of his own.\* Does that count? 😉 (The Empire won in the prequels, but that was because they were about the events that happened BEFORE the original movies.)

I think people find villains (as well as real-life criminals) fascinating because they wonder WHY people would do such evil things. (For example, I own a book on the history of cannibalism.) History is bloody and ugly and disgusting. You can’t ignore that. And we humans tend to have a morbid curiosity about that kind of thing.

I LOVE horror movies. I love being scared. I know it isn’t real, so it’s a “safe scared”, if that makes sense.

\*And no, I’m not spoiler boxing something as well-known as THAT. 😉

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-hannibal-lector-become-someone-the-audience-cheers-for/720221/130 "2015-06-02T15:12:12Z")

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W-ell, I suppose that would count, but only with a Darth Vader type.  
Did you ever see \* The 7th Voyage of Sinbad? \* To me that was the scariest movie ever-- particularly near the end, when the villain told a live skeleton in a chilling voice, “Kill him!” and it engaged Sinbad in a fencing match. I was ten years old at the time and I had nightmares about it.

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