"When Did The GOP Lose Touch With Reality" by David Frum

Jonathan Chait said liberal Democrats condemn Democratic presidents for not being liberal enough. Since perhaps the late 1960s the United States has been a center right country with self identified conservatives outnumbering self identifying liberals by nearly two to one.

My criticism of Barack Obama is that he underestimated the unemployment problem. Soon after his inauguration, when his approval rating was close to seventy percent he should have raised taxes on the rich and initiated public work programs.

My criticism of Bill Clinton is that his undisciplined libido made him vulnerable to Republicans.

I have no criticism of Jimmy Carter. I do not see how he could have handled the Iranian Revolution better.

I am not sure how Lyndon Johnson could have handled the War in Vietnam better. If he had pulled out the Communists would have won earlier, and he would have been blamed. (This does not mean that I supported the War in Vietnam; I did not, but most Americans did through out the 1960s.)

John Kennedy was a Cold Warrior, but that is where the country was at the time.

Harry Truman’s Truman Policy committed the United States to the defense of any right wing dictator against any resistance movement that could be labeled “Communist.”

As far as I am concerned Franklin Roosevelt was the next best thing to Jesus Christ’s younger brother.

Please forgive what may be seen as a hijack to this thread. :o

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Or perhaps an atheist Muslim born in Kenya. :eek:

… and more proof of how lefties are removed from reality. Keep digging.

So your answer to the fact that the Republican Party is on a crusade against homosexuals is to deny it?

How are you going to explain yourself to your grandchildren in fifty years? Someone’s going to ask you what you were doing while the conservatives were giving the green light to killing gay teenagers and standing in the door to the marriage clerk, and your answer will be…denial that it happened? I guess that at least shows SOME shame about what your group is doing.

Republican party also throws grandmas off cliffs. And eats babies. Raw.

The teabaggers are opposed to policies that might reduce unemployment. They are also opposed to government assistance to the unemployed. If the GOP is successful in ending unemployment compensation people will start dying. I am surprised it has not started already.

Better than that, I should hope!

This is one of the most fascinating thread I have read during four years of hanging out on internet forums. I have read every comment, including yours.

Until you start probing what they mean by it.

The denial that the Republican party is anti-gay is of course another great example of being out of touch with reality, but at least the need to deny is the sign of some kind of shame. I’ll teach you to be a moral human being yet.

:rolleyes: And once again, you completely avoid actually addressing anything I said. You keep making these smirking statements about how “removed from reality” I am, without providing any actual arguments against anything I say.

No, but they are perfectly willing to kill “grandmas and babies”; and anyone else who isn’t a rich white Christian for that matter.

I don’t argue with truthers. I just point and laugh.

LOL. Another hate minute brought to you by Der Trihs.

During the Roosevelt administration, as the top tax rate grew, the unemployment rate declined.

So… you can’t tell the difference between an explanation which flies right in the face of reason and the evidence we have (something like the claim that it was a controlled demolition) and one that matches the facts to a T, but has not been conclusively proven (Bush was too lazy/incompetent/evil to prevent the 9/11 attacks)? Here’s a hint for ya: The republicans do the former waaay more than the latter.

@Trihs: Stop posting. In a discussion where the dems are trying to convince the repubs that they aren’t as crazy as the other guys, a lone radical spouting off his radical opinion does not help.

I agreed with this until I observed the political success of Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. I have never seen such public doubt about the success of Franklin Roosevelt in ending the Great Depression. All of the major economic reforms of the twentieth century seem to be on the table right now.

In other words you are incapable of contesting what I’m saying, so you use a warped definition of “truther” so you can sit back and smirk about it. And apparently you miss the whole point of Great Debates.

I’m not a Democrat, so my opinion has nothing to do with what the Democrats are or are not like. Nor has anything I’ve said in this thread been all that “radical”.

“On purpose”. That’s the claim. Look at the LIHOPers posting.

Hilarious.

Fifteen percent are truthers. Twenty-seven percent are birthers.

There is a great deal of difference between thinking that Bush was negligent, about 9/11, and thinking that he conspired to make it happen.

Not necessarily, since he could have done the latter just by being negligent on purpose.