# When did the kings of England/Britain stop claming the throne of France?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 5, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-kings-of-england-britain-stop-claming-the-throne-of-france/258532 "2004-08-05T23:35:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-kings-of-england-britain-stop-claming-the-throne-of-france/258532/21 "2004-08-10T03:55:51Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> Besides these two, there’s also a number of claimants stating that the son of Louis XVI didn’t die in prison during the revolution, but was kidnapped. Several supposed “Louis XVII” surfaced during the beginning of the XIX° century.

The **real** Louis VII, of course, wound up in America, sailing down the Mississippi on a raft with Huck, Jim, and the Duke of Bridgewater! 😃

Probably the only French monarch ever to endure tarring and feathering . . .

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-kings-of-england-britain-stop-claming-the-throne-of-france/258532/22 "2004-08-10T03:56:59Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> Then came the issue of calling this president president \*\* of the republic \*\* or not.

Amusingly, the president remains co-Prince of Andorra…

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2004, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-kings-of-england-britain-stop-claming-the-throne-of-france/258532/23 "2004-08-10T12:42:56Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Unforunately for her the Huguenots and Catholics reconciled just long enough at the Peace of Amboise in 1564, to decide to jointly expel the English from Le Havre.

I had forgotten about the Le Havre incident–thanks for reminding me. Though, insofar as Calais was officially ceded in 1559, that part of the treaty of Cateau-Cambresis was, as you say, somewhat moot, as the French already occupied the port city.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-kings-of-england-britain-stop-claming-the-throne-of-france/258532/24 "2004-08-10T23:33:47Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> In December 1421 Catherine bore a son, Henry, and the Tudor succession to both thrones seemed assured.

That should be the Lancastrian succession. Henry V and Henry VI were Lancastrians, not Tudors.

Henry Tudor was an off-shoot of the Lancastrians, through one of John of Gaunt’s bastards, but the Lancastrians as a whole weren’t Tudors. Henry VII also was descended from Catherine of France, but through her second marriage, to Owen Tudor, not directly from her first marriage to Henry V. Henry VI was Henry VII’s half-uncle.

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