# When did the NRA become a hyper-partisan anathema to rational thought? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 11, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568 "2011-11-11T04:04:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/101 "2011-11-12T04:53:41Z")
> [@JXJohns](#): > > Cite? I must have missed that fact in last month’s American Rifleman mag. I bet they don’t cite why they oppose all major state and federal law enforcement recommendations regarding tagging guns and bullets either. The NRA wants guns and bullets to be untraceable so more inner city people can get access to them and kill each other – because they’re very likely not white middle class suburbanites. That’s what NRA is all about now: allow everyone to have access to handguns so they can kill the people they associate with. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/102 "2011-11-12T04:54:56Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > I bet they don’t cite why they oppose all major state and federal law enforcement recommendations regarding tagging guns and bullets either. > > The NRA wants guns and bullets to be untraceable so more inner city people can get access to them and kill each other – because they’re very likely not white middle class suburbanites. > > That’s what NRA is all about now: allow everyone to have access to handguns so they can kill the people they associate with. **Der Trihs?** Is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/103 "2011-11-12T04:56:27Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > **Der Trihs?** Is that you? Sorry to intervene… I think this is the second time in the past year that someone is questioning my identity… I don’t know who Der Trihs is. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/104 "2011-11-12T04:59:17Z")
Oh, I get it now. This is a parody of the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/105 "2011-11-12T05:05:08Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > I bet they don’t cite why they oppose all major state and federal law enforcement recommendations regarding tagging guns and bullets either. > > The NRA wants guns and bullets to be untraceable so more inner city people can get access to them and kill each other – because they’re very likely not white middle class suburbanites. > > That’s what NRA is all about now: allow everyone to have access to handguns so they can kill the people they associate with. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/106 "2011-11-12T05:08:02Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Cite? The news. Look it up. I’m not responsible for educating the uneducated. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/107 "2011-11-12T05:08:16Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Cite? Why do you keep asking this…_person_…for a cite? ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/108 "2011-11-12T05:09:28Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > Sorry to intervene… I think this is the second time in the past year that someone is questioning my identity… I don’t know who Der Trihs is. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/109 "2011-11-12T05:10:00Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Why do you keep asking this…_person_…for a cite? Because his sources don’t report reality, they repeat subjective evaluations and subjective discrimination. That’s all he has to go by. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/110 "2011-11-12T05:11:29Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The news. Look it up. > > I’m not responsible for educating the uneducated. Yes you are. If you make an assertion you have to back it up. Period. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/111 "2011-11-12T05:14:39Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > Because his sources don’t report reality, they repeat subjective evaluations and subjective discrimination. That’s all he has to go by. I think you were looking into a mirror when you typed this. Also: look up the definition of irony, and contemplate it as you reread and evaluate your [del]contribution[/del] posts to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/112 "2011-11-12T05:17:57Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Yes you are. If you make an assertion you have to back it up. Period. The NRA is an organization that blocks all attempts for controlling the flow of handguns in the possession of drug dealers and drug peddlers in inner city populations in the US. If you don’t know that this is what NRA does, you should educate yourself. If you do know that this is what NRA does, then you are included in what NRA is all about… let minorities have unfettered access to handguns so they can kill each other. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/113 "2011-11-12T05:24:05Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The NRA is an organization that blocks all attempts for controlling the flow of handguns in the possession of drug dealers and drug peddlers in inner city populations in the US. > > If you don’t know that this is what NRA does, you should educate yourself. > > If you do know that this is what NRA does, then you are included in what NRA is all about… let minorities have unfettered access to handguns so they can kill each other. Cite? PROVE IT. You can’t. You can try all day and all night. Hell, you can try for the rest of your life, but you can’t prove it. It’s not true, and repeating nothing more than conspiracy theory nonsense lends you no credibility whatsoever. You are a poor debater. In fact, repeating talking points drawn from God knows where isn’t debating at all. You have nothing. Nothing at all. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/114 "2011-11-12T05:24:39Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The NRA is an organization that blocks all attempts for controlling the flow of handguns in the possession of drug dealers and drug peddlers in inner city populations in the US. > > If you don’t know that this is what NRA does, you should educate yourself. > > If you do know that this is what NRA does, then you are included in what NRA is all about… let minorities have unfettered access to handguns so they can kill each other. Truly, we have much to learn from you. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/115 "2011-11-12T05:31:19Z")
> [@JXJohns](#): > > Cite? I must have missed that fact in last month’s American Rifleman mag. You’re clearly just a low-level NRA member who is being kept in the dark about the organization’s _real_ purpose. You have to be a 33rd Degree NRA member before they let you in on the secrets. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/116 "2011-11-12T05:34:03Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Truly, we have much to learn from you. Yes. I learned that I really should start donating again to the NRA. ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/117 "2011-11-12T05:38:16Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Truly, we have much to learn from you. Not from me. NRA is too obvious on its intentions in the past decades. As long as minorities can have unlimited access to handgus they’re OK with it. As long as anyone else has access to national war level equipment, they’re not OK with it. Their intention is clear… let minorities kill each other. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/118 "2011-11-12T05:40:52Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The news. Look it up. > > I’m not responsible for educating the uneducated. You are, however, responsible for supporting your claims in a debate with some sort of substantial references. (This is especially true when most of your claims appear to be fact-free rants.) If you simply wish to rant, feel free to do it in The BBQ Pit. If you wish to continue posting in this thread, provide citations to actual events. Otherwise, refrain from posting in this thread. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/119 "2011-11-12T05:58:26Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > As long as minorities can have unlimited access to handgus they’re OK with it. You do know that gang violence is strongest in staes and cities with lots of Democrats… who can and often did vote in strict gun control laws, which have not solved much if anything. It wasn’t gun control laws which helped clean up New York, or even the nastier areas of LA. In fact, gun control aws simply haven’t shown much impact on violent crime, unless you can completely block off access everywhere. This sometimes (only sometimes) works in an island nation like Britain, yet they still have a dangerously high level of violent and invasive crimes. Ultimately, gun availability might make crime a little more dangerous, but hasn’t huge impact on murder rates. ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568/120 "2011-11-12T06:03:47Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > You do know that gang violence is strongest in staes and cities with lots of Democrats… … […] Sorry, I can’t respond to moronic trash 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-the-nra-become-a-hyper-partisan-anathema-to-rational-thought/602568.md?page=7)