# When Did / Will the Astros Outlive the Cheatstros Label for You

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**Created:** [October 1, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-will-the-astros-outlive-the-cheatstros-label-for-you/1033519 "2026-10-01T16:51:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-will-the-astros-outlive-the-cheatstros-label-for-you/1033519/1 "2026-10-01T16:51:50Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [MLB Playoffs 2026 (incl. World Series)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-playoffs-2026-incl-world-series/1033429):

I have a generic baseball fan question. I’m not taking any position on it, at least not yet. But I’m just curious what y’all think:

The Astros cheating scandal was about play in 2017 & 2018. Which story broke in 2019. We’re coming up on a decade since the cheating began. So:

- Who’s left on the team or management who was formally implicated in knowing about the cheating or participating in it?

- Who else wasn’t formally implicated but is widely suspected of having been involved? Any of those still on the team / in the front office?

- When, if ever, does the Astros organization and its current or future members outlive the stain of the past for you? For most / nearly all fans?

- What, if anything, could be done to speed that process for you? For others?

- How much do you look at this as an organizational problem, versus a bad actor problem? Of the players and staff definitely involved, how do you feel about them playing later years for whoever else? Or now?

And any other question(s) or thoughts along these lines that strike you.

Not really looking for an item by item response, more just trying to elicit conversation hitting the kinds of points I’ve enumerated.

  

tl;dr:

Do / Did the Astros or the involved people ever recover, or should we ban them all from the owner down to the ball boys, forcibly disband the corporation, and ban the use of that name forever? Or something in between on some timeline?

What do you think for yourself? What do you think other people think?

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