# When did you feel Trump needed to be impeached? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 11, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690 "2019-12-11T03:49:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/21 "2019-12-11T16:47:47Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I just want him to die. As painfully and lingeringly as possible. > > And then I want Pence to catch whatever he had. > > No Republican should ever hold a position of public trust again. > > ETA: And I think this should have been a public poll (as all of them should be). While this is not technically against the rules, I’d prefer not to see such things. It makes your soul all sticky. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/22 "2019-12-11T16:59:01Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t think impeachment is a good idea. I agree with this. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/23 "2019-12-11T17:11:21Z")
I was watching the testimony the other day, and House Republicans were repeatedly making the point that Democrats have wanted to impeach Trump from the beginning. They could hardly contain their envy of the ability Democrats had of being able to see right through the well known con man, and of being familiar with his history prior to his electoral college victory. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/24 "2019-12-11T17:16:21Z")
As others have said, somewhat ambiguous. The Lester Holt interview was when I said “Aha, there he is clearly committing an impeachable offense in broad daylight!” But I knew long before he was elected that he was a crook, and the chance of him committing multiple impeachable offenses once in office was \>\>99.9%. So, if it had been remotely politically feasible, I would have advocated him being impeached pre-inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/25 "2019-12-11T17:16:32Z")
Before the inauguration I figured he would likely end up impeached, but at that time he hadn’t done anything, so I wouldn’t be behind a movement to impeach him. The first conduct I saw as impeachable was the firing of Comey for not interfering in the Flynn investigation, but at that point it was clear that this wasn’t going to be enough to overcome partisanship, and so there wasn’t much point. I’m not sure where this falls on your timeline so I answered between the Russia and Ukraine incidents. The Ukraine whistle blower was that first time that I supported the Democratic party going forward with impeachment hearings. On the grounds that if we don’t hold him accountable for this, we won’t be able to hold him accountable on anything. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/26 "2019-12-11T17:24:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I was watching the testimony the other day, and House Republicans were repeatedly making the point that Democrats have wanted to impeach Trump from the beginning. They could hardly contain their envy of the ability Democrats had of being able to see right through the well known con man, and of being familiar with his history prior to his electoral college victory. This sounds like a defense attorney his client’s mile long rap sheet is proof that he’s innocent because the police are out to get him. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/27 "2019-12-11T17:48:59Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > While this is not technically against the rules, I’d prefer not to see such things. It makes your soul all sticky. And then your soul spends eternity at the top of the Elections forum. It’s not a pleasant fate. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/28 "2019-12-11T19:25:06Z")
[February 20, 2017](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=819644). ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/29 "2019-12-11T19:32:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/30 "2019-12-11T19:34:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t think impeachment is a good idea. Whether it’s a good idea or not has no strong bearing on the oaths of office that everyone in Congress takes to uphold the Constitution. A policeman might think, as an example, that the drug war is stupid. Nevertheless, he is duty bound to track down and arrest drug dealers. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/31 "2019-12-11T19:37:10Z")
I was hoping that faithless electors would prevent him from being elected. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/32 "2019-12-11T19:41:55Z")
We have rarely elected such an openly buffoonish, conceited and embarrassing President. I was shocked when the joke candidate started to win primaries. In fairness, Harding was dumber but he put on a nicer more mature face at least. Jackson was a bigger asshole and as conceited. James Buchanan was as unqualified and probably worse for the time than Trump would have been. Low bar, but Nixon was better and he resigned before being impeached. Dick Cheney is more evil but had to work through his puppet at least who blocked some of Cheney’s worst wallowing in his own crapulence. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/33 "2019-12-11T19:56:12Z")
It’s ridiculous, and indicative of this board’s bias, that almost 20% of the respondents said the President should have been impeached before the election. That’s not even _possible_. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/34 "2019-12-11T19:59:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s ridiculous, and indicative of this board’s bias, that almost 20% of the respondents said the President should have been impeached before the election. > > That’s not even _possible_. More ridiculous that Trump and his marching morons calling for Clinton to be locked up without a trial? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/35 "2019-12-11T20:00:46Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s ridiculous, and indicative of this board’s bias, that almost 20% of the respondents said the President should have been impeached before the election. > > That’s not even _possible_. I’m shocked to learn that. My God, you mean that couldn’t have been done? Or maybe, just maybe, we mean that he never should have been elected or even won the Primary. Trump is an embarrassment. An egotistical arrogant asshole. He in no way is like in his home area of the NY metro area. He shouldn’t be liked by the religious right with his morals. He ducked military service. He is a buffoon and many of us knew his presidency was going to be a bad one. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/36 "2019-12-11T20:35:44Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s ridiculous, and indicative of this board’s bias, that almost 20% of the respondents said the President should have been impeached before the election. > > That’s not even _possible_. “Lock her up!” “Who’s paying for the wall?” - “MEXICO!” “The media is the enemy of the people” - stating that a Judge can’t be neutral because of his ancestry - Grab em by the pussy “that’s just locker room talk!” GTFO with that “ridiculous” and “bias” nonsense. The right has surrendered any right to call anything ridiculous forever by supporting this insanity this long. Your side made your bed on this by completely abandoning objective reality for your head lunatic, so don’t even try to act like the left is the side that is untethered to reality. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/37 "2019-12-11T20:44:35Z")
Whether he deserves to be impeached and whether it is a wise strategy to do so are two very different questions. I’m satisfied that he richly deserves to be impeached, but I do not think it is a wise strategy for the Dems. We all know that there simply are not enough votes in the Senate to remove him from office. As such, impeachment will accomplish nothing for the Dems, and perversely, may turn out to be a net positive for Trump. His supporters are well and truly pissed off about the whole deal. I think the Dems may see a large backlash that not only re-elects Trump, but carries the House on his coat tails. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/38 "2019-12-11T20:48:10Z")
At some point duty to the Constitution and to the country needs to take priority over strategy. Otherwise impeachment may as well be removed from the Constitution, as well as anything pertaining to oversight or checks and balances. We are either a Constitutional Democratic Republic, or we are… something else… ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/39 "2019-12-11T21:35:23Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s ridiculous, and indicative of this board’s bias, that almost 20% of the respondents said the President should have been impeached before the election. > > That’s not even _possible_. There were Republicans [calling for Clinton’s impeachment before she was not elected](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/republicans-are-already-talking-about-impeaching-clinton), the high crime being the security risk of her emails, which now pale in comparison to how Trump and his ass-lickers use their unsecured phones, including while in places like Ukraine. At the time, any fool could see that Trump was corrupt and incompetent, (and he hasn’t disappointed in that regard). Once he got elected, though, his ass-lickers have done their best to ignore and excuse it, and there just enough dupes in this country to fall for Trump’s dog-and-pony show. Americans are also fatuous enough to think that their electoral system is somehow perfect, and Trump’s election proves that it isn’t. It shows that someone who objectively has no good reason to be president can become president. But even the Framers knew that this could happen, so they built in impeachment. If a company hires someone (by some freakish accident) who is entirely unfit for a job, the sooner they can get rid of the person, the better. It’s not about breaking low-level technical laws (which didn’t even exist yet), and it’s not about due process. It’s very simple–we don’t want a corrupt incompetent running our country. It wouldn’t be any different if the Electoral College put a habitual, unrelenting drunkard into the Oval Office. Alcoholism isn’t illegal, but the sooner he’s out, the better. The only bias here are the ass-licking Republicans who enable him, just because he’s in their party. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/40 "2019-12-11T22:36:25Z")
Since his election, I think the best time to have impeached Trump was right after the Mueller report, on obstruction. That case is much stronger than anything in these articles. Plus they would have had time to go through the courts on contested subpoenas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690.md?page=3)