# When did you feel Trump needed to be impeached?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 11, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690 "2019-12-11T03:49:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/61 "2019-12-15T15:09:55Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I thought the Ukraine recording was evidence of an impeachable offense.
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> I think it’s informative that only 11% of the respondents don’t want trump impeached while 45% of the general population do not want trump impeached. We have all but driven out dissent on this board. This board has become a liberal echo chamber.

Or that the polling methodologies are so widely different to not be comparable.

Or that some extreme right wing dissenters in the broader population choose engage behavior that is tolerated elsewhere, but is not tolerated here so they were sanctioned and/or banned.

Or right wing dissenters _themselves_ want an echo chamber, which they didn’t find here, so they left.

Or a bunch more things that counter your conclusion that dissenters were “driven out”.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/62 "2019-12-15T22:34:37Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Or that the polling methodologies are so widely different to not be comparable.

They’re not supposed to diverge that much

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> Or that some extreme right wing dissenters in the broader population choose engage behavior that is tolerated elsewhere, but is not tolerated here so they were sanctioned and/or banned.

Right because all the bad behavior is coming from one side. :rolleyes:

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> Or right wing dissenters _themselves_ want an echo chamber, which they didn’t find here, so they left.

There are echo chambers on both sides. I didbn’t think this was supposed to be one of those echo chambers.

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> Or a bunch more things that counter your conclusion that dissenters were “driven out”.

None of these things counter my conclusion, they provide alternate (and frankly much less likely) explanatons. Of course they were driven out. I’ve said it dozen times. This place is Arrakis for conservatives and moderates and its disneyland for liberals.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/63 "2019-12-16T11:05:27Z")

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We tend to drive away people unable to make coherent, fact-based posts. Why the people affected by this heavily skew toward supporting Trump is left as an exercise for the reader.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/64 "2019-12-16T13:12:09Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I thought the Ukraine recording was evidence of an impeachable offense.
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> I think it’s informative that only 11% of the respondents don’t want trump impeached while 45% of the general population do not want trump impeached. We have all but driven out dissent on this board. This board has become a liberal echo chamber.

You cannot compare the results of a voluntary self selected respondent sample with a real poll.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/65 "2019-12-20T19:40:42Z")

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FWIW, a [research poll done in February 2017 (just a few weeks into the Trump presidency) indicated that 58% of Democrats already wanted Trump impeached.](https://www.prri.org/research/poll-trump-impeachment-constitution-partisanship-muslim-ban/)

(“Support for Impeaching the Presidents,” the third bar graph in the article)

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-feel-trump-needed-to-be-impeached/844690/66 "2019-12-24T05:18:22Z")

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When he bragged of obstructing justice. IIRC his tweet was, “I don’t obstruct unless I’m fighting back - and I’m fighting!” That’s a straight-up admission of a high crime.

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