# When did you stop beating your wife? Challenging loaded questions in FQ

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife-challenging-loaded-questions-in-fq/977291/30 "2022-12-30T00:40:09Z")

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> [@Ruken](#):
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> And thus is confirmed to be a parenting strategy to reduce abuse of the child.

…I haven’t argued that in some instances it may well be a parenting strategy to reduce abuse of the child. Of course that happens. But it’s a _holistic_ strategy. As in the primary goal is to make their kids better people. It really isn’t anything more than that.

> [@Ruken](#):
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> The existence of other motivations doesn’t negate this.

Except they aren’t just “other motivations.” They **are** the motivations.

> [@Ruken](#):
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> The strategy exists; anyone who doesn’t already know that from casual news exposure and who inexplicably can’t confirm it in 30 seconds\* would be threadshitting by arguing otherwise in that thread.

“Casual news exposure” is exactly the reason why the premise of the OP should be allowed to be challenged.

Because “casual news exposure” often leads to bullshit ideas.

> [@Ruken](#):
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> into Google provides ample results.

It presents **extremely targeted results** that, in the case of this search, presented many websites or stories that either were focused on sexual abuse in general and presented “make hugging consensual” as one of many different things you could do, or news articles that started with a narrative and then found people that agreed with the premise and quoted them. The problem with overly targeted searches is that you end up largely with “casual news exposure”. That isn’t a good thing.

> [@Ruken](#):
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> That doesn’t mean there are studies. What few papers I found adjacent to the request mentioned little research outside a few specific areas, like adults in medical setting.

**After** all of the moderation in the original thread, after everything was edited and the thread put back on track by the moderators, the OP posted this:

> [@Any evidence that teaching kids about healthy boundaries and consent to physical contact reduces abuse?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-evidence-that-teaching-kids-about-healthy-boundaries-and-consent-to-physical-contact-reduces-abuse/977225/25):
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> What questions should I be asking? I asked a very open-ended question. What are the goals of people using this parenting strategy and is this strategy accomplishing those goals? I want to know if this strategy works or if it’s just something people are doing because something must be done about rape culture and sexual abuse and this is something so this must be done. There are lots of examples of people adopting well-meaning child rearing strategies that don’t work, often bolstered by “experts” with no evidence. Parents delayed giving their kids peanuts, taught them that abstinence was the best protection, and that kids should just say no to drugs. None of these strategies work. Is this particular child rearing strategy having any positive effects? Enlighten me if there is some question I should ask that I’m not asking. Then show me the citations that answer those questions. I don’t know about this strategy and I’d like to.

This gives the game away. The OP is _insistent_ they are just asking questions. _Insistent_ that this question is important. _Insistent_ that no nuance is required. They just _had_ to share that with everyone.

> [@Rational Wiki](#):
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> The purpose of this argument method is to influence spectators’ views by asking [leading questions](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leading_question), regardless of the answers given. The term is derived from the questioner’s frequent claim that they are “just asking questions,” albeit in a manner much the same as political [push polls](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Push_poll). Additionally, this tactic is a way for a crank to escape the [burden of proof](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof) behind extraordinary claims.

> **[Just asking questions](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)**
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> Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off, or as emojis: "🤔🤔🤔"\[1\]) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of...

The demand for “enlightenment” here, IMHO, is disingenuous. If this really is the case:

> [@Any evidence that teaching kids about healthy boundaries and consent to physical contact reduces abuse?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-evidence-that-teaching-kids-about-healthy-boundaries-and-consent-to-physical-contact-reduces-abuse/977225/25):
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> I don’t know about this strategy and I’d like to.

then the OP would be open to the responses that they received in that thread that didn’t narrowly answer the _exact_ question posed in the OP, but gave more context and enlightenment on the strategy.

But its clear they don’t want to do that.

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