# When does gender matter in a story?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-gender-matter-in-a-story/333423>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 30, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-gender-matter-in-a-story/333423 "2005-11-30T19:06:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-gender-matter-in-a-story/333423/21 "2005-12-01T05:42:17Z")

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> [@even sven](#):
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> Others mess with it. I think the Kill Bill is an example of this. I believe that in Kill Bill the character of the Bride represents the long gazed-at female in all of film history taking control of her story and getting revenge on the director/male gaze and making a new life for young women in film free from that. Of course, YMMV.

I think that has become a new archtype. Lara Croft, Aeon Flux, Selene from Underworld, Bloodrayne, Xena, Elektra, etc. Now gaze at me kick your ass!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-gender-matter-in-a-story/333423/22 "2005-12-01T07:40:44Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> There is a problem in the village and the hero or heroine ventures out and a hero ultimately must overcome a diffenciy in his own character. The heroine comes to grip with the fact that she is and has always been the hero.

[The boy who didn’t know fear?](http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm004.html)

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