# When does virginity and age become weird? (Offshoot of What's sexier) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 13, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302 "2005-07-13T05:06:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/81 "2005-07-14T00:57:03Z")
> [@FilmGeek](#): > > Decreased sex drive is a sign of depression, not low sex drive. Bullshit. Sex drives come in all different strengths. You don’t have to want it all the time to be healthy, nor is it unhealthy to want it constantly. I know people who are totally celibate even where masturbation is concerned and hey, they seem pretty happy to me. Choosing to forego one of life’s pleasures is someone’s right; it makes a lot of people happy to jump out of airplanes but it doesn’t make it wrong for me not to do it. I would find it weird if someone was thirty or older, but it wouldn’t necessarily kill the relationship, unless they did it for religious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/82 "2005-07-14T00:59:39Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Come on. Not all of us said that. If you have reasons behind remaining a virgin, I’m glad to hear them. Let me repeat: > > **The only time I would duck and run instantly is if it were for religious reasons. I just don’t think it would work.** You say only religious reasons would keep you away, but many other posters, in this thread and the one that inspired it, have made it quite clear that if no one has had the desire to have sex with me before I reach age x, then they too will allow me to linger in virginville. So apparently, my not having met any girls who want to be with me means that I’m therefore unworthy of being with? Quite a little catch 22 there. I wasn’t aware that finding someone was so easy. I apparently missed the memo they sent out about that magical place where everyone goes to and gets paired off into serious relationships. Some of us just can’t find relationships. Maybe we don’t have the qualities that force so many other guys to shake off women with a stick. But for those of you who would refuse to be with me, or any guy (or girl for that matter), simply because no one ELSE found us desirable, then that’s amazingly shallow and immature. And yet I was considered immature for, not even a year ago, complaining that I wanted to lose my virginity to another virgin. I’ve luckily come to terms with that. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/83 "2005-07-14T01:03:28Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > You say only religious reasons would keep you away, but many other posters, in this thread and the one that inspired it, have made it quite clear that if no one has had the desire to have sex with me before I reach age x, then they too will allow me to linger in virginville. > > So apparently, my not having met any girls who want to be with me means that I’m therefore unworthy of being with? Quite a little catch 22 there. I wasn’t aware that finding someone was so easy. I apparently missed the memo they sent out about that magical place where everyone goes to and gets paired off into serious relationships. > > Some of us just can’t find relationships. Maybe we don’t have the qualities that force so many other guys to shake off women with a stick. But for those of you who would refuse to be with me, or any guy (or girl for that matter), simply because no one ELSE found us desirable, then that’s amazingly shallow and immature. And yet I was considered immature for, not even a year ago, complaining that I wanted to lose my virginity to another virgin. I’ve luckily come to terms with that. Not all the women said that, many said they wouldn’t mind it. Besides even though people can be damn superficial and intolerant of diversity when it comes to dating (I sadly admit to being this way too), after you actually let someone see you as a human being for a little while by talking to them they are going to be alot more tolerant than they would be otherwise with a stranger. Point being, coming across as a human being for a few minutes can do wonders for how tolerant someone will be to you. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/84 "2005-07-14T01:08:34Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > But for those of you who would refuse to be with me, or any guy (or girl for that matter), simply because no one ELSE found us desirable, then that’s amazingly shallow and immature. Hey, but I don’t think it’s shallow and immature to feel that way either. If you can make decisions for yourself regarding your sex life, and you expect us rightfully not to consider it immature, then \*everybody \* has that right. And if some people make the choice not to sleep with someone after age \_\_\_, isn’t that their choice also? And why are they being called immature for it? It’s sex. There is never going to be one-size-fits-all. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/85 "2005-07-14T01:23:50Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > And if some people make the choice not to sleep with someone after age \_\_\_, isn’t that their choice also? And why are they being called immature for it? I’m comparing the fact that on this very board, I have been called immature for my past views on sex, and yet now, I have observed some of those same people express their immaturity and shallowness when it comes to sex. So, either there is a double standard (virgin wanting another virgin = immature / experienced person not wanting to give a virgin the time of day = acceptable), or it’s just plain ol’ hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/86 "2005-07-14T01:32:37Z")
> [@Soapbox Monkey](#): > > You say only religious reasons would keep you away, but many other posters, in this thread and the one that inspired it, have made it quite clear that if no one has had the desire to have sex with me before I reach age x, then they too will allow me to linger in virginville. > > So apparently, my not having met any girls who want to be with me means that I’m therefore unworthy of being with? Quite a little catch 22 there. I wasn’t aware that finding someone was so easy. I apparently missed the memo they sent out about that magical place where everyone goes to and gets paired off into serious relationships. > > Some of us just can’t find relationships. Maybe we don’t have the qualities that force so many other guys to shake off women with a stick. But for those of you who would refuse to be with me, or any guy (or girl for that matter), simply because no one ELSE found us desirable, then that’s amazingly shallow and immature. And yet I was considered immature for, not even a year ago, complaining that I wanted to lose my virginity to another virgin. I’ve luckily come to terms with that. EXACTLY! You start despair that you’ll ever find someone, what with everyone making comments about those “freaky VIRGINS”. And it’s not so much that people have the opinions, like, “I’d want to meet another virgin”, or, “I’d rather be with someone with experience” than the whole, “People who are still virgins after such and such age are just freaky and must have something wrong with them.” You start thinking that no one will want to sleep with you, since you’re a freak, or there’s something wrong with you. Just because it’s someone’s opinion doesn’t mean others can’t criticize that opinion. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/87 "2005-07-14T01:32:53Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > Bullshit. Sex drives come in all different strengths. You don’t have to want it all the time to be healthy, nor is it unhealthy to want it constantly. I know people who are totally celibate even where masturbation is concerned and hey, they seem pretty happy to me. Choosing to forego one of life’s pleasures is someone’s right; it makes a lot of people happy to jump out of airplanes but it doesn’t make it wrong for me not to do it. “Decreased sex drive” _is_ one of the symptoms of depression and that is not bullshit. If a person has a regular sleeping pattern of 8 hours per day and that suddenly drops to 5, it is called insomnia and it’s another sign of depression, whether you know people (there are) who barely sleep and go about their business normally. Deviations from a person’s regular behavior and their bodily functions should always be checked. Read: a person with a low sex drive to begin with has established his/her normality as having a low sex drive. Right? Right. That means there wouldn’t be anything abnormal about that person and **FilmGeek** would still be correct. The irony here is that he (?) was making the distinction you are apparently defending. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/88 "2005-07-14T01:34:23Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > It’s abnormal in the strict sense of being outside a standard dev, but there’s certainly nothing wrong with it. Which is a very important part about it. It’s quite one thing to say: “well, an older virgin [or person who leads a mostly celibate life, let’s not forget them…] is unusual, and I’m unlikely to be sexually compatible with someone like that [or it’s not in my character to play teacher at this point in life], so I should not be in their dating pool to begin with”, and quite another is to judge " there must be something wrong with him". The first one is a fine and honest position to take, and I would not dare tell the person they are wrong. _ **HOWEVER** _, to the comment > [@](#): > > being an adult virgin signals to potential partners that regardless of how well you hit it off, they’re not going to be having any sex with you for quite some time. then we have the observation: > [@KarlGrenze](#): > > I wish people wouldn’t immediately think that because I’m a virgin, that means anyone dating me won’t get anything for a long time. Unless the person has expressed that the reason to remain virgin is religious (saving it for marriage), I think it is an incorrect assumption on the other partner. …that they may be missing out on potential good outcomes just as much as the celibate. The key, of course, is that each of us must be comfortable and at peace with our choices, and recognize that every decision has an opportunity cost. As **Cliffy** said, the opportunity cost the late-term virgin/celibate assumes is: > [@](#): > > for the run of potential partners, the ones who think they’ll want to have sex before falling in love, the ones who think sex is an important component of a relationship’s success even if not in the top five, the ones that think sexual compatability is a vital piece of information in evaluating long-term potential, even the ones who just want to get laid again in the next six months, they are going to assume – probably correctly – that this isn’t a relationship they are going to find satisfying. […] this majority becomes even more lopsided as you age. So by refusing to have sex until what I and IMO most others would call atypically late in a relationship, a person is significantly limiting his pool. And as KarlGrenze points out, the converse opportunity cost _those other_ folks assume is that of passing off on someone who may be ready to step off the ledge if approached just right. [sub](And I sure ain’t gonna ask "how she doin’ " 😃 , as I likely AM “old enough to be…” and so forth :o . _Beside_ my other neuroses :eek: _Así es la vida_😛 ) [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/89 "2005-07-14T01:35:32Z")
I met so many virgins in school-I mean if you threw a ball into the school you would hit one in at least four tries. And, they definitely weren’t what I would qualify as loserish or anything as every last one was above average looking (extremely fit, non-hydra faces) and one was widely considered the hottest girl in school. I suppose some people would consider all embryo lawyers to be losers but I mean, that aside, they didn’t fall into the usual category of scrubby suspects intimated above. Among reasons given (and not in confidence or anything, most talked about it freely) were asexuality (a few said absolutely no interest in it whatsoever so they didn’t want to seek it out), a few I think were closeted homosexuals (okay, that one I guessed, they didn’t tell me), a few were just ODDLY saintly (like setting up foundations for three-legged dogs) and just traipsed through life with a halo of purity like St-Francis of Assissi or something…I almost expected them to talk to birds, and for a whole bunch it was cultural (Asians). I think I knew ONE person who referenced religion. It is not at all unusual to come across Indian women and even guys who are in their late 20s and virgins so in those cases I don’t blink an eyelash. For one thing, almost everyone and their mother is a doctor so that’s twelve years of your life pissed away right there (on average) and on top of that there is tremendous pressure to keep your virginity (which usually is interpreted to mean “anything but” in typical sidestepping fashion) if you want to marry within the community (I’m talking females here). Quite often it’s self-reinforcing…I had a friend who, I don’t even know if she slept with people in college but she would definitely mess around, and people wrote to her fiance about it before they got married to say she was a slut and a whore and stuff (whack, I know). Of course there are exceptions to the rule and everything but it’s definitely not out of the norm. ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/90 "2005-07-14T01:52:35Z")
I agree with everything you said. 🙂 > [@JRDelirious](#): > > [sub](And I sure ain’t gonna ask "how she doin’ " 😃 , as I likely AM “old enough to be…” and so forth[…][/sub] Not to feed into your neuroses, as I have plenty of my own, but you undoubtedly are. That said, How YOU doin’? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/91 "2005-07-14T02:13:23Z")
> [@The Hook](#): > > “Decreased sex drive” _is_ one of the symptoms of depression and that is not bullshit. If a person has a regular sleeping pattern of 8 hours per day and that suddenly drops to 5, it is called insomnia and it’s another sign of depression, whether you know people (there are) who barely sleep and go about their business normally. Deviations from a person’s regular behavior and their bodily functions should always be checked. Read: a person with a low sex drive to begin with has established his/her normality as having a low sex drive. Right? Right. That means there wouldn’t be anything abnormal about that person and **FilmGeek** would still be correct. The irony here is that he (?) was making the distinction you are apparently defending. Sheesh. But the person FilmGeek quoted said their drive was naturally low, not that it was higher but had dropped. Hence, why I called bullshit. > [@Anaamika](#): > > nd if some people make the choice not to sleep with someone after age \_\_\_, isn’t that their choice also? And why are they being called immature for it? Because it is immature. It’s like if a highschool girl was telling her friends that she liked this kid Bobby and thought he was cute and they were all “no!! he’s gross!! OMG!!1!” and the girl thinks “well, none of my friends like him, so if I like him then I’m a freak! Better fit in.” And so Bobby, who might be a really nice, cute guy, doesn’t get asked out. And so he doesn’t get laid. He might be a great catch, but you’d never know it, because of the sheep mentality. Just because the consensus seems to be that someone is unscrewable doesn’t make them so. If you’re attracted to someone when you thought they were “normal,” you should be just as attracted to them after they drop the V-bomb. Does being a virgin make someone less attractive? Less interesting? Less likable? Also, if I’m getting to the point in a relationship where we’re talking about the first time we did it, chances are that I like and trust this person a lot, so I’m not going to be turned off by something little and stupid like this. Does everyone else immediately tell their partners how old they were when they first had sex? I would think that would be something you’d do right before having sex with the new person, as a sort of icebreaker. At least that is how it has happened in the past with me. Actually, I think that if someone started talking about their sexual exploits before the time had come to actually have sex, that would be a turnoff, whether they were an out-and-proud virgin or an out-and-proud person who’s had thirteen partners and started doing it in seventh grade. Sex isn’t a competition, and I don’t care for people who treat it as one. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/92 "2005-07-14T02:16:52Z")
> [@The Hook](#): > > -Hook, high sex drive, morbidly INTP INTJ here…how _you_ doin’? -foxy ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/93 "2005-07-14T02:20:42Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > Does oral sex count towards a man’s virginity? Or do I have to get some below-the-waiste insertion before I can say I’m not one? :dubious: I think that still all depends on what the definition of the word “is” is. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/94 "2005-07-14T02:51:58Z")
You wanna know what’s great about sex? It’s one of those things you totally control and can be totally selfish about. You don’t wanna do it? Rockin’. You wanna do it twenty-five times a day with gaggles of sailors? Whatever gets your rocks off. You only wanna do it with your spouse? No problem with that. You want your first to be a virgin? Whatever makes you happy. And, in that vain: if I want to be selfish about what I want (I.E. have someone with experience, etc), I get to do that too. It really is strange that people are jumping in and calling us immature for our _opinions_ – our _personal preferences_ . The OP asked when we thought it became “weird”. We each spoke from our own view points and our own experiences. No seriously, I don’t care if you are a virgin or you are banged more than a Salvation Army Drum. In the end, we all make our choices and we get to pick what we want and like. I spoke my opinion, as did the others (on both sides). There is no reason to be offended. Goodness. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/95 "2005-07-14T02:53:52Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > But the person FilmGeek quoted said their drive was naturally low, not that it was higher but had dropped. Hence, why I called bullshit. Exactly. **eleanorigby** said all these women’s mags were telling her that low sex drives were a sign of depression. **FilmGeek** corrected the magazines in that aspect. By that token, you should have called bullshit on the magazines and not on **FilmGeek**. Just trying to help. ---
**Author:** ![Ashes\_Ashes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ashes\_Ashes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashes_Ashes)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/96 "2005-07-14T03:20:21Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Perhaps they haven’t had the opportunity to date, after all. Probably because nobody they know will date them… and the strangers they do meet that ask them out…well… I’m not too interested in going out with people who are old enough to be my dad, and that makes up more than half of all the guys that hit on me. This fits one of my friends from highschool almost perfectly. She’s still a virgin though she’s over thirty because she’s been asked on a date _once_ in her life. She’s always been quite overweight (which\* is\* a factor for many), a little shy at first, and lives in my area, which I can tell you is horrible for dating, and gets worse as you get older. Clubs are for younger people, the bars are nasty, no bookstore, cafes etc, everyone at her workplace is married and they only know married people. There’s nothing wrong with K psychologically, and if she lived somewhere else with a better dating scene I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t still be a virgin. For her it basically comes down to opportunity because she’s ready, willing, and able. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/97 "2005-07-14T04:24:09Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > No seriously, I don’t care if you are a virgin or you are banged more than a Salvation Army Drum. In the end, we all make our choices and we get to pick what we want and like. I spoke my opinion, as did the others (on both sides). There is no reason to be offended. > > Goodness. That’s not what offended people. People are offended that they’re being called weird, freaky, psychologically unsound, etc because they’re still virgins past a certain age. > [@Sleel](#): > > As I told an acquaintance once, being a virgin for a long period of time past puberty kind of implies that you have some kind of problem. It might be a problem with being afraid of intimacy, it might be a problem with forming relationships with people, it might be that you have hangups about sex, it might be any number of things. In my opinion if you haven’t had a relationship that you consider serious enough for sex before you’re 30, there is some kind of problem. > [@hathaway](#): > > If a man was deeply religious and saving himself for marriage because of it, I would cut him some slack. But if he was late-twenties and still a virgin for no particular reason, or non-religious but saving himself for the right person? That gets me wondering about him. Add to it anything else unusual and he’s officially weird, in my opinion… > [@Cliffy](#): > > I’d say it would occasion a raised eyebrow at 20 and would cause me to steer away at 25-ish or so. Unless a person has a plethora or other serious problems going on (serious enough to be immediately apparent), if they’re a virgin at 25, they’re almost certainly a virgin by choice. I’m not interested in an adult that doesn’t want to have sex at least some of the time, and while I’d want to date someone for a while and get to know them before getting physical, there’s a point in a relationship in which sex is appropriate, and that point is well, well, well before the point where you’re deciding on whether to move in together or get married. I wouldn’t want to spend all that time on a relationship only to find after months or years that we weren’t physically interesting to each other. > > I’ve got a good friend who is a week away from her 30th birthday and is a virgin. We often talk about the comedy of errors that is the single woman’s dating life, and the pattern is beconing obvious – she gets on well with a guy for four or five dates, and then he stops calling. I can’t bring myself to tell her this, but the solution is that she’s got to start putting out! > [@Indygrrl](#): > > I’d be wondering what was going on if a guy was over 30 and a virgin. Unless he’s asexual, I’d think he would have at least gotten a hooker or something just to get it over with. I can see being nervous about it, but if I was a guy I would want to get it out of the way. Yeah, that’s not offensive. Uh huh. To me, calling people weird and saying “there must be something wrong with them” if they’re still virgins is no different than the old standard of calling anyone who had sex outside of marriage perverted whores. It’s like **The Hook** said: you can’t get a date/job because you don’t have experience, but how are you supposed to GET experience if no one will give you a chance? What is INTP? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/98 "2005-07-14T05:29:00Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What is INTP? And while we’re at it, INTJ as well? To answer the OP: I’d consider anyone past age 21 and still a virgin to be somewhat unusual, but not necessairly weird or undesireable. ---
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/99 "2005-07-14T05:34:19Z")
INTP is one of the Myers-Briggs types, very loosely based on the ideas of Carl Jung; I can’t find it offhand, but it’s not all that difficult to find the whole big test online; google Myers-Briggs Type Indicator or MTBI if you want to play around with it. (This also seems to be associated with a Keirsey, but I’m not sure what the connection is.) As with all personality tests, [YMMV](http://skepdic.com/myersb.html), and I wouldn’t take it seriously, but it’s fun for a boring afternoon or two. INTP stands for **I** ntroverted I **N** tuitive **T** hinking **P** erceiving. (In other words, your average INTP is probably not going to be out living it up every single night. 🙂 ) I’m an INFJ myself ( **I** ntroverted I **N** tuitive **F** eeling **J** udging). ---
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-does-virginity-and-age-become-weird-offshoot-of-whats-sexier/312302/100 "2005-07-14T05:35:22Z")
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